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Gordon durie next manager

So it seems to me that robbo will leave end of the season and durie will be an atomatic replacement. What are your views, do you feel he should be appointed or maybe the board should look for someone else?

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Appoint him now, see how the players respond to him and what his football is like.

You'll have a decent idea by the end of the season if he's worth a punt for next season.

That won't happen though.

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An atomatic replacement?

Wow, can't wait!

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Bayview
An atomatic replacement?

Wow, can't wait!


Stellar idea though.

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Do you think he'll have a new clear out?

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By the logic of this thread, Jimmy Calderwood and Walter Smith should immediately resign, as neither will be leading their clubs next season. Lets add Dumbarton's Caretaker Manager, as he might not be. This will give the new Managers, whoever they are, time to see how they get on with the players before the summer hols.
Any more bright ideas? We really want to hear from you.

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Alex Ferguson should resign now too. He'll be retiring soon. What's the point of him staying?

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hedonist
By the logic of this thread, Jimmy Calderwood and Walter Smith should immediately resign, as neither will be leading their clubs next season. Lets add Dumbarton's Caretaker Manager, as he might not be. This will give the new Managers, whoever they are, time to see how they get on with the players before the summer hols.
Any more bright ideas? We really want to hear from you.


That's not the logic though, is it ?

Are you seriously comparing one of Scottish Football's greatest managers and one of the world's greatest ever managers to John Robertson and East Fife falling towards the bottom of the 3rd tier ?

Robbo's not got us performing. We never look like we can score post Craw and Byrne. Rangers and Man Utd can still be champions. Calderwood is just in the door in the hope he can avoid relegation with Ross County - maybe we could follow suit ?

I can understand folk wanting Robertson to stay - and it may be the right thing to keep him but to use that argument is nonsense.

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Points/game under robbo is better than points per game than Crawford. Assuming that all teams continue to acquire points at their present rate, East Fife will avoid playoffs and relegation.

We need an experienced manager at the helm to ensure league safety. Robbo is that man.

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MaRY_BaLE
Points/game under robbo is better than points per game than Crawford. Assuming that all teams continue to acquire points at their present rate, East Fife will avoid playoffs and relegation.

We need an experienced manager at the helm to ensure league safety. Robbo is that man.


so thats it finished then "the fat lady sings"

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MaRY_BaLE
Points/game under robbo is better than points per game than Crawford.


That's the very least you'd expect. Crawford jacked it in. You'd hope his points to game ratio is far better than Craw's. The only team we've beaten since last year, and that win was far from convincing, was the bottom team.

Gordon durie next manager

Never understood this natural progression from assistant to manager.Durie is assistant and is surely part of the reason obviously along with Robertson for regards to our performances,results and league position?

We need a total clean out at the end of the season from top to bottom

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and the teams we've lost to since the start of the year???......runaway leaders livi, and an on-form dumbarton team.

I think the draws with Forfar and Brechin were also harsh. On another day, those would have been 2 wins rather than 2 draws.

IMO (if hoogers will let me have one) is that we'd be better off sticking with an experienced manager, rather than rock the boat a 2nd time and go with a rookie.

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Thing is, is there an experienced manager out there that we could afford, would be able to improve our standing given our lack of resources and/or would want to come to us in the first place?

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the Dude
Thing is, is there an experienced manager out there that we could afford, would be able to improve our standing given our lack of resources and/or would want to come to us in the first place?


Yes there is. His name is John Robertson and he has the potential to be our best manager since Steve Archibald if he is not hounded out (or leaves of his own accord).

He took over when we were in serious trouble and he has been in charge for only ten league matches, broken up over a four-month period. Three wins, three draws, and four defeats (two of those losses against the full-time league leaders). We have had three clean sheets in the last four games, and the manager has used his contacts to sign a young striker who looks like a very good addition to the squad.

Meanwhile an East Fife legend, Gordon Durie, is being rubbished by people who obviously don't care about what harm they do to the club's image or reputation, and have no concern over the prospect of driving away someone with so much to offer a club that he genuinely cares about. Give the guy a chance, for christ's sake! He's being slated as a manager without ever having taken charge of a team. Get a fecking grip.

Can we please let the manager get on with his job, and concentrate our efforts on getting right behind the team?

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Come on East Fife!
the Dude
Thing is, is there an experienced manager out there that we could afford, would be able to improve our standing given our lack of resources and/or would want to come to us in the first place?


Yes there is. His name is John Robertson and he has the potential to be our best manager since Steve Archibald if he is not hounded out (or leaves of his own accord).

He took over when we were in serious trouble and he has been in charge for only ten league matches, broken up over a four-month period. Three wins, three draws, and four defeats (two of those losses against the full-time league leaders). We have had three clean sheets in the last four games, and the manager has used his contacts to sign a young striker who looks like a very good addition to the squad.

Meanwhile an East Fife legend, Gordon Durie, is being rubbished by people who obviously don't care about what harm they do to the club's image or reputation, and have no concern over the prospect of driving away someone with so much to offer a club that he genuinely cares about. Give the guy a chance, for christ's sake! He's being slated as a manager without ever having taken charge of a team. Get a fecking grip.

Can we please let the manager get on with his job, and concentrate our efforts on getting right behind the team?


Everything about your post is brilliant. Well said!

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Hear Hear!! Although, the Chairman states that Robbo is 99% away at the end of the season so that would rule him out but I agree about Durie tho. I'd rather a Chisolm or Maitland type but it looks like Durie so I'll get behind him hen it happens as should others.

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Spf you clearly don't want robbo here,thats your opinion but please don't talk pish about bringing a manager in to see if the players respond.I'd think robbo was brought in to avoid relegation while cutting our wage bill,not an easy task.
Durie if he is our next manager will be working with the players,having input into team tactics etc which surely will give him an idea of what needs to happen next season,first priority surely is 2nd div football next year,which i think robertson will have more chance of achieving than Durie at the moment.
With your thinking McCoist should be in charge now at Rangers as they've announced he will be manager next season so Smith should go now!!!!!!

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Kerriann
Come on East Fife!
the Dude
Thing is, is there an experienced manager out there that we could afford, would be able to improve our standing given our lack of resources and/or would want to come to us in the first place?


Yes there is. His name is John Robertson and he has the potential to be our best manager since Steve Archibald if he is not hounded out (or leaves of his own accord).

He took over when we were in serious trouble and he has been in charge for only ten league matches, broken up over a four-month period. Three wins, three draws, and four defeats (two of those losses against the full-time league leaders). We have had three clean sheets in the last four games, and the manager has used his contacts to sign a young striker who looks like a very good addition to the squad.

Meanwhile an East Fife legend, Gordon Durie, is being rubbished by people who obviously don't care about what harm they do to the club's image or reputation, and have no concern over the prospect of driving away someone with so much to offer a club that he genuinely cares about. Give the guy a chance, for christ's sake! He's being slated as a manager without ever having taken charge of a team. Get a fecking grip.

Can we please let the manager get on with his job, and concentrate our efforts on getting right behind the team?


Everything about your post is brilliant. Well said!


Robbo won't be our manager past the end of the season, that has been well documented.

Who can we seriously afford as manager at Bayview? According to the Chairman Robbo was being paid for by the Directors and unless they are going to continue to finance a manager with a good pedigree then we have to take a chance with the younger ambitious types. Durie would certainly fit the bill.

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S-Pat
Robbo won't be our manager past the end of the season, that has been well documented.


I'm not convinced about that until we hear it from the manager himself rather than the chairman. He was desperate to get back into football management when he took the East Fife job, and until he has a better offer, leaving East Fife means walking away from management.

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MaRY_BaLe
and the teams we've lost to since the start of the year???......runaway leaders livi, and an on-form dumbarton team.


Aye, and to think that the team who played Livi included Crawford and/or Byrne – it doesn't bode well.

On-form or not, you can't even begin to excuse that performance at home to Dumbarton (in both halves and after two manager teamtalks). That game was HUGE for us, in a home game, to try and save our season, and I have to think long and hard, given the magnitude of the game for us, a worse East Fife performance.

MaRY_BaLe

I think the draws with Forfar and Brechin were also harsh. On another day, those would have been 2 wins rather than 2 draws.


Not in the games I witnessed, it's all about opinion. Again, missed a penalty at Forfar fair and sqaure, then they missed an open goal but we never looked like scoring all game. Deserved draw. It would've been stealing 3 points.
Against Brechin, our best player was our keeper and we could've played 3 days and not looked like scoring. Again, a well-fought, deserved draw. We don't even looke remotely threatening at corners far less close to getting the 3 points in those games.


MaRY_BaLe

IMO (if hoogers will let me have one) is that we'd be better off sticking with an experienced manager, rather than rock the boat a 2nd time and go with a rookie.


What boat is there to rock at Bayview at the moment ?

fletch20
Spf you clearly don't want robbo here,thats your opinion but please don't talk pish about bringing a manager in to see if the players respond.I'd think robbo was brought in to avoid relegation while cutting our wage bill,not an easy task.
Durie if he is our next manager will be working with the players,having input into team tactics etc which surely will give him an idea of what needs to happen next season,first priority surely is 2nd div football next year,which i think robertson will have more chance of achieving than Durie at the moment.
With your thinking McCoist should be in charge now at Rangers as they've announced he will be manager next season so Smith should go now!!!!!!


Durie will be in charge of signing players next season. All the more reason IMO for him to get the job now (if he's manager-in-waiting anyway). It might well be a bad decision, but it's not absurd. I don't think we'll go down with Robbo or someone else.

Walter Smith can still win the SPL and has unparalled success as a Scottish football manager. Walter Smith, Ally McCoist and Rangers have nothing whatsoever to do with Robertson stepping aside in a lower-league job in which he's given us nothing so far, added to the fact he's leaving anyway and where we're now finding ourselves possible contenders for relegation with no form.


Anyhoo! I heard we've signed Wallace, if so, that's great news (is it true ?), If he starts tonight, who knows - we could sneak a win....

Campbell back training too. Great news on both.

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Bump!

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Rather than directing a campaign of negativity towards Robertson, everyone associated with EF should be doing everything we can to presuade him to stay as our manager for next season.

You never know, if he enjoys his time at EF enough he may want to stay for a little bit longer.

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I think some people these days think the appointment of a good football player will be the appointment of a good manager. A players career of proffesional football is somewhat regarded as coaching experience. I feel that players are making the step upto management far too quickly. Also I think there's pressure on great players to do something out of the ordinary or to get results from the word go. A key example is Stevie Crawford whom I feel hadn't enough coaching experience and ultimatley didn't have a long spell at the club. We now look to next season and the club are expected to appoint Gordon durie as our next manager. I believe his appointment will ultimatley end up like Stevie Crawfords and we will be back in this same situation soon... The club should look to appoint somone who has had ten years of coaching experince and not necessarily 10 years of playing experience. The fans and media will obviously tout big name players for jobs because they don't know anyone else. Scotland and England is full of potentially great coaches, they just haven't been given the chances to peforme at a high level.

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I thought we'd appointed a new manager when I read the first headline on the official site today.

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I fund that quite alarming too!

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i agree with fifer 100%,he's a good manager and like he say's if enjoy's it then he should be persuaded to stay,if not nobody's mentioned the name John Hughes.

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Fifer
Rather than directing a campaign of negativity towards Robertson, everyone associated with EF should be doing everything we can to presuade him to stay as our manager for next season.

You never know, if he enjoys his time at EF enough he may want to stay for a little bit longer.


I agree lets keep robbo and jukebox can learn from him,and then if robbo wants to leave at the end next season then jukebox will have had some experience.

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Well said Zak

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could'nt agree more

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performances have been woful under robbo get him out now durie is a fife legend and would get soem fight back in the team robbo will relegate us and is away at the end of the season so he wont care.