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1 in 5 babies born in Scotland is Polish

I heard on a German radio report that 1 in 5 babies now born in Scotland is born to Polish parents.

Are these babies British or Polish?

Any comments / opinions?

Re: 1 in 5 babies born in Scotland is Polish

Following a change to the medical privacy laws there is now only one sperm donor for the whole of Scotland.

The poor man's right arm is dropping off ...

If you believe the future of Scotland lies in your hands, you will be paid handsomely (it's a lot, though I can't remember exactly how much they give you now).

(Perhaps that man is Polish??)

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If they are being born to Polish couples then technically they are Polish because these days you don't get British nationality just because you are born here. If they are born to a couple where one partner is Scottish then I think they would be seen as British by the authorities.

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Anyway as both countries are in the EU it's not so important whether they are british or Polish because we are all Europeans! With all these mixed nationality couples the lines are becoming more blurred anyway.

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If both parents are Polish then the babies are Polish. If the father is British, the children are British. A Polish mother means nothing if the baby is born in Scotland.

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The radio programme you heard was probably based on this story:-

Polish immigrants swell Scotland's new baby boom
ALISON HARDIE
SENIOR NEWS WRITER (ahardie@scotsman.com)
IMMIGRANTS from eastern Europe have helped trigger a baby boom in Scotland this year, new official figures have revealed.

There were 646 more babies born in the first quarter of 2007. Of that number, one in five were born to parents from Poland, Latvia or other European Union accession nations.

It is the first time the General Register Office for Scotland has broken down its statistics to uncover the extent of the impact on Scotland's population of mass immigration from eastern Europe.

A spokesman said: "Births in Scotland went up by 646 as a whole compared with the first quarter of 2006.

"One in five of those babies were born to parents from the EU accession states.

"Of that number, the majority of babies were born to Polish parents, followed by parents from Latvia."

In the past four years, about 600,000 eastern European immigrants have arrived in the UK from the eight nations that have recently joined the EU, including Poland, which joined in 2004, and Romania and Bulgaria, which joined this year.

The Executive believes there are about 40,000 Poles living in Scotland, while the Polish Council believes there are about 50,000. The true figure could be as high as 100,000.

The figures released yesterday showed that while the birth rate in Scotland has continued to grow this year, it was outweighed by the number of deaths.

The first three months of 2007 saw 14,214 babies born, an increase of 4.8 per cent on the same period the previous year.

It continues a five-year trend and is the highest number during the first quarter of the year since 1997.

However, deaths increased by 6.3 per cent from 14,876 to 15,818, the highest total since the same period in 2000.

While the number of deaths from cancer fell by 0.6 per cent, deaths from coronary heart disease increased by 2.4 per cent and deaths from stroke by 1.9 per cent.

The figures give Scotland an estimated population of 5,116,900.

The Registrar General for Scotland, Duncan Macniven, said: "The increase in the number of deaths was disappointing, though it was partly a reflection of the unprecedentedly small number of deaths in the first quarter of 2006.

"The increase was relatively small and it is too early to suggest a change in the trend of a falling death rate."

The figures also showed that the number of marriages dropped, by 4.6 per cent from 3,493 to 3,333, and - as had been expected - the number of same-sex civil partnerships also fell.

Robert Whelan, of the Civitas think tank, said: "We have to bear in mind with immigration that we are not just looking at the numbers of adults coming into the country, but at large numbers of children being born.

"It will make a growing difference to the balance of the population because birth rates among the existing population are low. Immigrant groups have higher birth rates than the existing population."

• THE most popular names for Polish children are quite different from Jack and Sophie - the names most often chosen by parents of Scottish children.

The most popular name for a Polish baby boy is Jan, with Anna being the favourite name for a girl.

Following Jan, the names most commonly picked by Polish parents for boys are: Andrzej, Piotr, Krzysztof, Stanislaw, Tomasz, Pawel, Józef, Marcin and Marek.

For girls, the next most popular after Anna are: Maria, Katarzyna, Malgorzata, Agnieszka, Krystyna, Barbara, Ewa, Elzbieta and Zofia.

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Strange they haven't considered more English language friendly names when choosing these alien sounding names for their children.

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Anna or Ania?

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Ania is usually a shortened form of Anna, same as Basia for Barbara, Krysia for Krystyna etc etc

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"Following Jan, the names most commonly picked by Polish parents for boys are: Andrzej, Piotr, Krzysztof, Stanislaw, Tomasz, Pawel, Józef, Marcin and Marek.

For girls, the next most popular after Anna are: Maria, Katarzyna, Malgorzata, Agnieszka, Krystyna, Barbara, Ewa, Elzbieta and Zofia. "

All these names easily translate to English versions which is how it usually works. The non english friendly names are e.g. ludwig, kazimierz, Slawomirz, Zygmunt etc. Polish parents often choose names which translate. I know that's what my parents were thinking. Some put the Polish version on the birth cert, others do not.

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So it wasn't 1 in 5 after all.

A good journalistic twist on an interesting story.

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Maybe the UK should be like Poland. English names only
Many polish town halls don't like to register kids if they don't have Polish names. Only by insisting will they register.
that is why we called our kids Megan and Elizabeth just to confuse

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Such an approach might upset some english people who like to call their kids non english exotic names e.g. fifi, chardonay, porshe, xavier etc. Would gaelic names be considered English enough? e.g. Siobhan, Moireach, etc

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"Would gaelic names be considered English enough?"

Yes they would and are.

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Personally, I don't mind the polish name s but just not Bolek, that would just be cruel!

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Especially if your family name is Bąk.

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Oh I knew someone with that name...I think she pronounced it "back" when speaking in english! Not much you can do with Bolek other than call yourself Boleslaw but then you end up with people calling you something similar to coleslaw!