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Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

hmmm unrest not that far from the Polish border....I don't think economic depression is any excuse for this.

http://mathaba.net/news/?x=559583

Two foreigners were hurt during two separate neo-Nazi attacks in the
eastern German state of Saxony-Anhalt over the past 24 hours, news
reports said.

In the first case, three neo-Nazi thugs stormed the home of a
Vietnamese family in the eastern town of Burg, injuring a 14-year-
old boy and shouting anti-foreigner slurs.

Police arrested three suspects, ages 18, 19 and 38, in connection
with the vicious assault.

An arrest warrant has been issued against them on the suspicion of
inflicting bodily harm.

Meanwhile, a 27-year-old Chinese man, travelling on a regional train
from the city of Magdeburg to Burg late Wednesday night, was
insulted and chased through the train compartments.

He managed to find safe haven in the cabin of a train conductor but
was attacked and kicked later as he departed the train in Burg.

Saxony-Anhalt had the highest figure of per capita neo-Nazi attacks
in Germany last year.

All in all, the number of crimes committed by neo-Nazis have reached
a new peak in Germany in 2006 as officials openly admit that their
efforts to combat far-right crime have failed.

Some 18,142 neo-Nazi crimes were registered in Germany last year, up
from 15,900 in 2005.

The number of anti-foreigner attacks stood at 511 in 2006,
indicating a 37 percent rise from the previous year.

The latest figures are a "cause for concern", German Interior
Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble was quoted as saying earlier this year.

"Unfortunately, our multi-faceted efforts have not led to a decline
of this kind of crime," he added, Political observers link the
dramatic increase in the number of far-right delicts to the recent
success of neo-Nazi parties in key regional elections in several
east German states.

Young neo-Nazis feel more and more emboldened to commit hate crimes,
knowing that police won't really charge them with an offense.

Most of the suspects implicated in neo-Nazi crimes are under 21
years old.

Neo-Nazi attacks are mainly concentrated in economically depressed
eastern Germany, which has yet to recover from the whiplash
transition from Communism to capitalism.

Some 17 years after the German reunification, prospects are still
bleak for those living in the five eastern states.

A rather new phenomenon is the fact that female neo-Nazis are
increasingly involved in crimes

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

I think this sort of thing happens all over Europe all of the time. Often the media are told not to report incidents by government agencies.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

See Angela's Idi amin story. Black v black extreme violence. Not reported for months.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

Neil violence is the only common denominator with the other story.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

Actually it's not. It's about violence directed against other tribes / races.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

Neil it's gang violence, frequently within the same race. ....Maybe you should post on that thread Neil if you want to discuss the thread that nobody has posted on

In any case it's a bit different race crimes happening in a country which started a world war on the basis of race and was nearly destroyed by this attitude.

From the basis of Poland I think it is worrying that this is happening close to the Western border. I've seen Poles being encouraged in such attitudes on white supremacy forums and think it is a worrying trend in the wrong direction, especially when backed up by such statistics in the former east Germany. What's the opposite of evolution?

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

Poland is also very racist.
Just look at the leaders.
White power sprayed on walls and banners waved at sporting events where non whites play.
'Polska dla polakow' on thousands of walls.
Polish 'skins' are very funny, I find it amusing to see a Polish Nazi, slight education problem.

Very funny though I have seen 'Polska dla polakow' on a few walls in London, it does mean something else depending in which country it is written.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

How much of it results in violence in the name of neo nazism Dajwid?

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

Very funny though I have seen 'Polska dla polakow' on a few walls in London, it does mean something else depending in which country it is written.

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Possible reasons? Why would this be written in London? I can't imagine a non-Pole writing grafitti in Polish.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

“Very funny though I have seen 'Polska dla polakow' on a few walls in London, it does mean something else depending in which country it is written.”

Poland is actually nowhere near as bad when it comes to neo-nazism as other places – Germany, Russia, Austria, Croatia and even England, to name a few.

Lets not forgot that the infamous Polish League of Families are nothing compared to Neo-nazi parties found in local German lands or Austrian parliament.

In fact one can argue that Poland is one of the most politically tolerant countries in Europe. Its constitution guarantees German minorities 2% of Parliament. Can similar guarantees be found anywhere else?

Finally, if Polish skinheads amuse you, you must find the British ones especially hilarious, since that’s where they originated.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

“Poland is also very racist.”

Can’t be any worse than the proud regular Guardian readers on this Forum.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

I don't read the Guardian regularly. That was a one off purchase. My usiual read is the Telegraph

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

A link:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

I don't keep up with papers and don't bother buying them (they make much better chip wrappers)...is the guardian now racist?

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

"Possible reasons? Why would this be written in London? I can't imagine a non-Pole writing grafitti in Polish. "

I'd be interested to know which part of London etc....where was it?

My favourite piece of Polish graffiti was in Poland a few years ago ..."kocham piwo!" (I love beer!).

There is some particularly artistic graffiti (non Polish) that I pass on the train into town. I actually quite like it. It has a sort of urban inner-city chic about it. Some of these kids are quite talented.

"Poland for the Poles" is not much different from the "National front" slogans that used to appear in the UK in the 70s and 80s. Someone once told me with a wry smile that a large contingent of the NF were in fact Irish (one of the groups they wanted out). Any disenchanted and gormless Polish "yoof" getting involved in neo nazi crud are similarly misled into thinking they are part of a group sympathetic to them and their angst.

I've come across such neo nazi / white supremacy groups on my travels on the net. They are about as comical as vivien from the 80s cult show "the young ones" spouting marx. Of course the original nazi party were also seen as comical. it's when you see statistics on violence and murder like those in the above article that you have to wonder what on earth is going on inside young german minds and that it is no longer a laughing matter. Whatever is happening outside Germany, given the history should NOT be happening inside. Germany should be setting a positive example to the world not this neanderthal one.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

A new trend?

"Support for Nazis haunts Germany "

http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?
section=World_News&subsection=Rest+of+the+World&month=August2007&file
=World_News2007082221327.xml

Support for Nazi ideas in Germany is making people fear for their
lives, a government minister said yesterday.

Wolfgang Tiefensee, the minister responsible for east Germany, was
speaking after a mob of about 50 Germans attacked and chased eight
Indians through the streets of a small eastern town at the weekend.

"People are fearing for their health, people are fearing for their
lives," he told reporters. "Slogans are being chanted in Germany
that remind us of the years 1939-1945 (World War Two). "We can't
have this on German streets, we can't have this in schools and at
the workplace."

Widespread shock greeted news of the attack during a fair in
Muegeln, near Leipzig, late on Saturday.

Images of the victims with black eyes and stitches were on the front
pages of leading newspapers on Tuesday. Some 70 police were needed
to rescue the men and restore order after they fled to a pizzeria
and the mob tried to force its way in.

India's ambassador to Germany said she was "very concerned".

"We need to insure that such an event is never repeated," Meera
Shankar told daily Der Tagesspiegel yesterday.

In New Delhi, foreign ministry spokesman Navtej Sarna said: "We have
taken up the matter with the German government and have requested
that the German authorities take action to address this issue and
prevent future incidents of the kind."

German industry is suffering a serious shortage of skilled workers
and political leaders said the attacks sent out a worrying message
to foreigners considering a move to Germany.

"It's a scandal what happened in Muegeln," said Volker Kauder,
parliamentary chief of Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian
Democrats. "The fact people were evidently looking on and that
nobody had the courage to intervene makes me very sad."

According to media reports, the attackers chanted racist slogans
like "Auslaender raus" (Foreigners out) and pelted the Indians with
bottles.

Since German re-unification in 1990, racist violence has broken out
sporadically in the poorer east of the country. Last year crimes
committed by neo-Nazis and other right-wing extremists reached their
highest level since 1990. In Muegeln's state of Saxony, the far-
right National Democratic Party (NPD) entered the regional
parliament in 2004 after winning more than 9 percent of the vote in
an election.

Re: Foreigners hurt in twin neo-Nazi attacks in eastern Germany

Although it is maybe wrong to defend or understand this behaviour, again I think it goes back to attitudes being moulded over 50 years of enforced closure from the rest of the world. The attitudes being forced on people by an unwanted communist state were rejected and so people held on to their pre-1945 beliefs and have passed them on to future generations.