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Poland got herself a new constitution today

Poles aren't as fussed as Brits about the new EU constitution - they're used to foreign rule :)
Anyway, as long as the EU's giving them loads of money, why complain?

Re: Poland got herself a new constitution today

Didn't Britain and Poland opt out in some way?

Re: Poland got herself a new constitution today

That's something different ...

The new Polish Prime Minister, Donald Tusk, has told parliament that his government will refuse to sign the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.

Mr Tusk said the decision was out of respect for a deal negotiated by the previous conservative government.

Charter objections

Before Mr Tusk's party came to power, the previous government led by the president's twin, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, announced that Poland would join Britain in opting out of the Charter of Fundamental Rights.

The document features in the EU Reform Treaty as no more than a short reference but Mr Kaczynski's coalition was concerned that some of the charter's provisions relating to moral and family issues could contradict Polish law.

There was particular concern about same-sex marriages which are legal in a number of EU member states.

The new government has no such objection and the prime minister told the Polish parliament that his party and its coalition ally, the Peasants' Party, were in favour of signing up to it.

But Mr Tusk told MPs that the opt-out would remain because he needed the support of Jaroslaw Kaczynski's party in order to reach the two-thirds majority required to ratify the Reform Treaty as a whole.

Re: Poland got herself a new constitution today

No, Gordon signed away a lot of sovereignty. He engaged in window-dressing to give the illusion of some opt-outs, but they were virtually worthless and will, at best, simply buy some time.