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Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

Why are the Eurocrats dumping on the Irish? The Dutch voted no and the French voted no. The degree to which the Eurocrats just forget or pretend that the other no votes didn’t happen is dumbfounding. One can well suspect that most countries would vote no if given the chance.

Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

Only the Irish voted on the Lisbon treaty. The French and Dutch votes related to the European Constitution.

Yet more headline grabbing from the pantomime president in my opinion.

Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

>>One can well suspect that most countries would vote no if given the chance.

And one can well suspect that the answer would also be no if afterwards you asked them whether they really knew what they were voting for.

Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

If they knew what they were voting for they would say no.

30+ % of the EU budget is unaccounted for.
The EU auditors have refused to sign off the accounts for years now due to massive fraud.
Barroso said about the Constitution that we will vote and vote until we get it passed.

Why, Sosh, are you so anti-democratic?

No-one arriving in Brussels and Strasbourg and being plied with large amounts of goodies is going to be anti-centralisation.
I am massively pro-EU but hate it being robbed blind by these evil jerks who are twisting it to their own ends and saying that anyone who stands in their way is a Neanderthal. What sort of progressive philosophy is that? It sort of reminds me of '4 legs good, 2 legs bad'.

Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

I'm not anti democratic. Why are you such a troll Varsovarian?

The Lisbon treaty would have helped tidy up a lot of the current administrative mess in the EU.

Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

Hmmm
Yes, respecting democratic wishes can be messy. On reflection it's far more progressive and modern to ignore them.

Re: Poland in new blow to EU treaty

Sarko going to Ireland and insulting them has helped the anti-Constitution lobby:

"New poll shows Irish are against a second referendum and would reject Lisbon by even bigger margin than before

A new poll has found that 71% of Irish voters are against a second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, and that, of those who expressed an opinion, 62% would vote 'no'. That would mean the "no" lead would increase from 6 points in the recent referendum to a commanding 24 point lead in a second vote."

Ooops