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Re: News roundup from the UK

""I'm sure there are plenty of crappy schools in dorset or devon too.""

I'm sure wherever there are council estates or immigrants in the area there will be a crappy school.

My area is thankfully largely free of both.

Re: News roundup from the UK

""not quite sure what has happened. ""

Black Americanisation of youth, benefit culture among under and working class, and large scale immigration of undesirables.

Re: News roundup from the UK

Added to all that is the anti-boy bias of the educational establishment. The degree of sexism is incredible - oh, not to mention the degree of anti-working class bias in the curriculum.
Several years ago - and I was probably a little slow - I came to the blinding realisation that the aims of the educational revolutions of the last 20 years are:
(i) to give an illusion of success to girls
(ii) to destroy boys' self-esteem and work ethic
(iii) to ensure the elite's privileged status in society by making the other kids concentrate on (the very low level) GCSE exams at age 16 so they wouldn't have time to make up for it later.

Results of the reforms:
(i) girls are now massively outperforming boys (and this is seen as a GOOD thing!!)
(ii) white working class boys are branded as failures (and this too is seen as a GOOD thing!!)
(iii) A levels (age 18) and some university courses have been dumbed down - even the dumber members of the elite are sailing through now!

Oh - and boys are no longer trained as plumbers and electricians, so the good tradesmen are ageing fast. Girls are generally uninterested.

Re: News roundup from the UK

I think you're both wrong. Although there is a strong correlation between deprived areas and poor schooling, I think the decline in education standards is more down to faddy teaching methods and a lack of boundary setting by parents. In our instant gratification society kids don't want to have to do any hard work at all. Teachers have made it easier for them to do as little as possible, computers mean they don't even have to read a book or write their own essays. Because of the volume of coursework it's never been easier to cheat. Kids spend half their time in class texting.

Re: News roundup from the UK

Clever analysis - blame the teacher for making it too easy.
When I was a schoolteacher (I taught French) I got into a lot of bother simply because I tried to set standards. My results were excellent but my methods were unacceptable in the state sector.
I concentrated on enabling childrent to formulate sentences on their own intead of trying to learn endless phrases parrot fashion - the amazingly backward so-called 'immersion' technique, which tries to ape the real life first-language acquisition process.
I had no such problem in a private school.
Do you think teachers don't see what's going on? The problem is you simply have to bend to the will of government and Establishment specialists. You have no choice. To put it bluntly, would you go up to your boss and tell him repeatedly he was doing it all wrong and no person with half a brain would run a business like that? If you did, you'd be out of a job. Same thing goes for teachers in the weird, weird world of publicly-funded education.

Re: News roundup from the UK

Another Ania - you're going to Dorset too!
A friend of mine originally from Catford, now married to a Polish man and living in Warsaw, is down there just now - Swanage. I'm going to the area on Aug. 16th.
Apparently, it's a bumper year for tourism there.

Re: News roundup from the UK

"blame the teacher for making it too easy."

Of course I meant it is down to state policies. I know many teachers are working very hard to implement the badly thought out crappy national curriculum. I am full of admiration for anyone who can get up in front of a class of unruly teens in this day and age.