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Polish 'baby factory' sells newborns for Ł11,000

Surrogate 'baby factory' opens in Poland offering kids for couples at £11K a time

A CONTROVERSIAL "baby factory" producing infants for £11,000 for childless couples has opened in Poland.

The Warsaw centre is home to 37 young surrogate mothers ready to give birth to children for couples unable to have their own.

The surrogate mums have been medically examined, given support and checked for any history of genetic disease.

The women undertake not to drink alcohol or smoke during pregnancy and sign a waiver giving up all rights to their children when they are born.

Addresses for the surrogate mothers and couples paying for children are cross-checked to ensure they don't live in the same area.

The aim is to avoid the risk of surrogates bumping into their children in later life.

Couples using the surrogacy centre have to adopt the babies immediately after birth, whether healthy or not.

The move comes as statistics show 1.5 million Polish couples are unable to have children naturally.

The centre's chief, nurse Elizhbeta Shimanskaya, 32, says she already has orders for babies and she will give birth to three herself in the coming years.

She said: "Poland needs more people. So many of our citizens live abroad and 1.5 million couples face being childless. We are offering a service."

The move has sparked fierce debate in Poland.

Recent opinion polls in the country showed that the majority of the Poles approve of the initiative, although the powerful Catholic Church vehemently opposes it.

One surrogate mother said: "The church is wrong. We can help these people - they can not. We are living in the 21st century."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/08/02/surrogate-baby-factory-opens-in-poland-offering-kids-for-couples-at-11k-a-time-86908-20680604/

Re: Polish 'baby factory' sells newborns for Ł11,000

"Elizhbeta Shimanskaya"
not a Polish name. I wonder where she is from....

what does the Polish media make of this?

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Demography is destiny. Every stage of public policy, statute and regulation should have as its primary test whether it encourages, enables and supports the raising of children.

Is the use of surrogate mothers the best of many options? No. Is it better than importing substitute people and influences from areas not imbued with democratic and tolerant traditions? Yes.

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slepo that sounds just like national socialist propaganda....

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" Is it better than importing substitute people and influences from areas not imbued with democratic and tolerant traditions? Yes"

I couldn't say what it sounds like, but, I agree 100%.

Many of the problems in Europe today and probably most of those in the future stem from ill-considered immigration policies.

The Polish nurse behind this 'business' though is clearly after making some easy money.

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>>The move comes as statistics show 1.5 million Polish couples are unable to have children naturally.

1.5 Million!? Wow that's high. By my calculations that's about 1 in 3 couples!

Maybe I've made a mistake?:

38M People in Poland
27M People between ages of 15-64
So at a guess: 14M between ages of 20-40
Another guess: 70% of those are in a partnership
So that's 9.8M people
9.8M people with partners = 4.9M couples
1.5M of 4.9M couples is over 30%
30% of couples?!

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There are an awful lot of miscarriages and birth problems in Poland. People blame it on the long term effects of Chernobyl. My cousin's wife has had five miscarriages and is still childless. My other cousin married two years ago and the first child died in the womb at about 3 months because of a blood clot problem and another was miscarried recently.

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Toxoplasmosis killed my sister-in-law's 3rd child.
Another big cause of misccarriages is well water.

As for adopting - Polish regulations make it very tough for childless couples (particulary older couples) to adopt.

Think about it - the regulations are all aimed at facilitating adoption by older couples who already have kids. A bit of a niche market, huh?

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I guess going for older couples is a good thing. I think in the UK there is too much age discrimination. If you are older and have experience of kids you are more likely to provide a happy loving & secure home than someone who is young and inexperienced. However, that does not help the young people who yearn for a child but cannot have them. However, when you have lots of kids in orphanages and lots of parents who would love to have a child, you should find a system to make the two meet happily without too much bureaucracy (I'm talking about UK and Poland here).