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Re: Positive discrimination for Catholic churchgoers in schools?

It's really difficult to get into the high school (liceum age 16) of your choice in Warsaw. There's a points-based system where you are judged on 3 criteria:
1) national exam results at age 16
2) school report marks
3) other achievements/skills.

Getting a place in a top-grade Warsaw high school is highly competitive and the level demanded in school when you get there is execeptionally high. My wife teaches intelligent children who are having problems coping with their schoolwork.

Naturally, there are other schools designed merely to keep youths occupied for a few years, but I wouldn't want to send my kids there and it wouldn't set them up for a good university afterwards.

People here are not dumb - they know which schools / universities are good and which are not.

Re: Positive discrimination for Catholic churchgoers in schools?

On standards.

Of course, there are some excellent students in Poland.

However, I personally know of several Poles who often joke at the 'workload' they had in order to finish their magister degree. All have good jobs now despite the fact that they are probably no better educated or equipped for their jobs than someone who doesn't have the infamous 'magister' title from a 'top ten' Polish university.

I am also pretty sure that the same 'pay your fee equals a degree' or 'it's easier for the lecturer to pass rather than fail inferior students' degree courses are available in Warsaw.

When 90% of younger Poles are enrolled on a degree course or have a degree then standards suffer.

A degree from Poland meant something prior to around 1995. Not now.

I should also say that the same dumbing-down of education is not limited to Poland.