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Re: Try and Catch Me-Step-Nephew Edmund

I’d really like for those who think Edmund was guilty to actually outline the evidence against him. We know the death happened out on the ocean of which the only other witness is deceased. He wasn’t Abby’s heir until she made him so. He told Abby he didn’t want nor expect her money. I’ve heard he had a “look” on his face when he saw Phylis’ picture. I didn’t see anything suspicious about his look. He didn’t have a devious smirk or anything. We have his bachelor pad with no photos which a few of us felt wasn’t entirely out of the norm. That’s all. They didn’t have children. He could’ve divorced her. He had no benefit to kill her. Maybe the writers actually wanted the subject of his guilt to be up for debate since we as viewers are usually expected to have a certain level of disdain for the killers that Columbo captures?

Re: Try and Catch Me-Step-Nephew Edmund

Yes I agree with what you say, the disdain. However I thought this was a very cleverly scripted and thought through episode. Miss Abigail does say prior to slamming the safe door shut with Edmund inside - "I know what you did"... Just as she queries Edmund on the beach whilst strolling along. Also that eerie scene where the horses gallap past them and Edmund looks genuinely frightened - not of the horses we know, but of Abigails intentions. These scenes were dripping with irony, self guilt, and a single mimded determination. Perhaps I am being biased as this film is my all time favourite and I love the way the script writers leave the viewer in suspense over Edmund. Columbo knew all along of course, all those little clues and nuances. Edmund WAS a killer.

Re: Try and Catch Me-Step-Nephew Edmund

Mark, I don’t think there’s any real evidence regarding Edmunds guilt. It’s just a backstory to give the the main character a motive to commit murder and thereby enhance the main plot. It’s up to the viewer to decide if the motive is valid. I don’t see any reason why Mark would be innocent because it doesn’t serve the plot and the director showed nothing that would exonerate him.

Columbo mentions that he read the file on the nieces’ murder and it was somewhat inconclusive. Also that Mark must have had a very poor marriage. Other than that we have Abbie’s suspicions.

So I suppose Abbie could be in so much pain that she just blamed Mark. But more likely he killed her. I guess a divorce was too difficult, lol. He certainly couldn’t have expected to inherit. That should have been a red flag when Abbie was so nice to him.

Re: Try and Catch Me-Step-Nephew Edmund

Interesting take, Pete. I just think it has to be more than a coincidence that even in the show, the report showed "inconclusive..." and the show itself left us very little, close to nothing, as far as any real proof that Edmund killed his wife. The writers easily could've given us something more substantial. They could've showed Edmund talking to himself after Abby decided to make him her heir, saying something like, "...just how I planned" or "...thanks Phyllis" with an evil chuckle or smirk. But nope, in fact, they did the opposite. I do really feel that this was to have us viewers not feel overly sympathetic to a 1st degree murderer.

Re: Try and Catch Me-Step-Nephew Edmund

That may be true, that they don't want us too sympathetic, especially after Columbo says how much he likes certain murderers: "Not for what they did, never for that", etc.

I also think that sometimes a write fleshes out a great back story and some studio hack will come in and edit it to shreds. In Murder With Too Many Notes it's so bad that it looks like they ran out of time. The final clue that was supposed to catch Findlay Crawford was from written music that spelled out B-E-C-C-A. And therefore.....? Therefore the episode was over and Crawford asked if any prisons had a good orchestra, lol. IT MADE NO SENSE!

So perhaps Edmund's back story and the niece's death would have been fleshed out more and, for purposes of brevity, they just said she died mysteriously. And Abbie suspects foul play.