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All good things come to an end. Or so they say. AFTN has been around since 1989, first as a fanzine and then making the jump to a website and forum in 2003. We've been through the many ups and down at East Fife in those 12 years but policing the forum has become a giant pain in the ass in recent years. As such, we made the decision not to renew it when it expired.

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Until then, have a last browse here, thanks for all your support over the years, and 'Mon the Fife.

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O/TAberdeen Supporters statement on Rangers situation

Compelling statement from Dons fans on the current situation. I believe all supporters in Scotland should be uniting for a fairer distribution of wealth in football and proper sanction for decades of cheating by the O/F. Lets challenge this myth we really need them. Without league to play in these two are history.

"DST’s stance on the matter is uncompromising. The sporting integrity of Scottish Football is critical. We want our club to take the moral high ground by insisting that all member clubs play by the rules, comply with the law of the land as well as the game, and fulfil their obligations to other clubs and to society as a whole. DST fully believes in these principles and is sure that all right minded supporters will feel likewise. We wish to send a clear message to the board and management of AFC that we will not condone any departure from these principles, and that they should not be party to any future arrangement which allows a club to renege on its legal and moral obligations.
Rangers led most of the top Scottish clubs into ruinous debt by their unsustainable overspending from the Souness years onwards, and the creation and structure of the SPL has institutionalised the unfair distribution of wealth within our game. Now is the time to challenge the OF’s stranglehold to ensure a more equitable league structure and format.
The OF need the rest of Scottish football much more than we need them. Without a league of opponents to compete with, they cannot survive. The media argument that the OF subsidise the other teams and keep them afloat is spurious. The reverse is in fact true, since they get a totally disproportionate share of the money in the game. This unfair subsidy must cease immediately.
This is watershed for Scottish football. DST believes that the supporters of AFC and supporters of every SPL club should now send a strong and clear message to their club’s directors that we expect and demand change to the structure of the game as a whole. It is in every club’s interest (including the OF) to level the financial playing field, and to have 2/3rd majority voting in the SPL.
Clubs must also find ways of improving the product on the park by increasing variety, competition and entertainment, thus providing better value for money.
DST will continue to monitor events and will be collecting comments from members soon".

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It's looking like the existing company will be liquidated. Who in their right mind would buy them with the result of the big tax case unknown and the majority of income for the next few seasons going to ticketas?

The intresting thing is what the SPL will do with the new Rangers - let them straight back in (dangerous precedent) or force them to go through the SFL route starting at division 3. I hope the latter.

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Fantastic statement from Dons fans.

If the other clubs vote them back into SPL (if they do liquidate) then right away clubs all over will be thinking they can get rid of their debts in one fell swoop with very little penalty really.

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I think all trusts shld submit a similar statement to their board,the spl sfa and league.. Clubs like falkirk dunfermline and even coden could have gone into administtation , cheating their creditors out of money but they did the right thing ang cut cloth according to income. Rangers didnt and broke the laws of the game and the land. For me nothing less than expulsion from spl woulf be sufficient.

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Who's to say Rangers would be allowed into the 3rd division if the SPL expel them? A space would be created and any 'phoenix' club would have to apply for the place alongside any other interested clubs. Then it would go to a vote of SFL members. When Aidrionians went bust, their phoenix club weren't voted in and so they ended up consuming Clydebank. SFL members might be wary of something similar happening with Rangers but if they have to apply, admission into the 3rd isn't a foregone conclusion.

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The intresting thing is what the SPL will do with the new Rangers - let them straight back in (dangerous precedent) or force them to go through the SFL route starting at division 3. I hope the latter.[/quote]

Fuck them. Rangers out. Spartans in. One extra promotion per promoting league. Could mean having a play off league for divisions 2 and 3.

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One downside to them being demoted to the 3rd division, is that there is the strong possibility that they could win the Scottish Cup/ League Cup while not being in the top league! Bang goes our unique record!

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Bob Agg
Who's to say Rangers would be allowed into the 3rd division if the SPL expel them? A space would be created and any 'phoenix' club would have to apply for the place alongside any other interested clubs. Then it would go to a vote of SFL members. When Aidrionians went bust, their phoenix club weren't voted in and so they ended up consuming Clydebank. SFL members might be wary of something similar happening with Rangers but if they have to apply, admission into the 3rd isn't a foregone conclusion.


Exactly! The SPL and SFL are entirely seperate entities.

Re: O/TAberdeen Supporters statement on Rangers situation

Possible Scenario?

Cowdenbeath F.C. become:

The True Blue Brazil (Central Park) 2012/13
AFC Rangers (Ibrox Stadium) 2013/15
"Rangers" (Ibrox Stadium) 2016/2...

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