Although a Rangers fan for over 50 years l have been a regular at bayview (new and old) for many of those years too, going through the good and bad times like most people who contribute in this forum.

What l do not understand is the hatred spewed by some who write in this forum. While l do believe in free speech and everyones right to say "it as they see it. Some people obviously hold an allegiance to the other half of the old firm, l have no problem with this, but they at least be truthful about it.
Here is my thoughts for what they're worth on the debacle.

First thing l thought was the obvious lose of revenue that currently comes into the game through tv, sponsorship ect.
Secondly the revenue that all clubs enjoy when Rangers come to town.
lt wasn't so long ago that East Fife gave up their home tie against Rangers so they could take the tie to the home of Dunfermline just to cash in and make a fast buck. where was the Sporting lntegrity?

I read one letter on the forum from "a Rangers fan" who wrote about hoping that the Rangers fans would make new friends on their travels.
He was attacked by some who said, "they don't want Rangers and their sectarian fans nor their sectarian songs"
Having pointed out, God save the Queen, rule Britania and a few others were not sectarian, he was still not believed (maybe celtic leaning fans), which of course is their right, but are also some East Fife songs which are as offensive to other teams and their supporters. is there not?
Ask any Rangers and Celtic fan "what makes old firm game special"? or East Fife and Raith Rovers fans.
They will tell you it's traditions and banter, but banter is now seen as so NOT! PC

PC is killing not just football but l believe society as a whole.
Where would football be without the banter? but Banter to you may not be banter to me, "banter" always offends someone.

Rangers supporters had no part in "their" clubs downfall. Murray and Whyte are to blame for the shambles that is now Rangers, but l hope the police ivestigate both as vigorously as possible and they get what they both deserve.
So please stop blaming the Rangers fans, they didn't choose either of them, just like East Fife fans didn't choose Danskin or Brown! Welcome the Rangers supporters and the "few bob" extra they'll put in East Fife coffers.
Lets also hope Scottish football as a whole gets itself out of this mess.

Rangers don't play East Fife in the league for two more seasons then meet in Division One.
Who will l be supporting? well lets just say l hope East Fife are the only team to beat Rangers on their return to the top league. However l doubt this will happen because the spl teams who voted against Rangers, will soon contrive to have Rangers back in the top league cause money talks more than integrity
.

In the words of Jim Royale Sporting Integrity "My Arse"

I hate both Rangers and Celtic. I'm a Fifer with no interest in the Pope or the Queen (or football teams from the West Coast).

Rangers are dead (hurrah) and it would be great if Celtic die or leave Scotland in the coming seasons now.

Newco or 'The Rangers' or whatever, are a new football Club and rightfully have to start at the bottom. It's not even punishment, it's just common sense. The self-inflicted punishment was your former team dying.

No one else killed your Club - it was the people running your Club who killed it. Take it out on them for there having to be a new team starting in the 3rd.

You are the one who needs to get over it.

you really are bitter to the core huh?
Rangers will always be Rangers no matter what!
even you are not that thick to understand that! but as St Pauli are affiliated to celtic, l can see why you would want the most successful ever Scottish team to lose their history.

Nah, you're clearly bitter as a) you're still posting Newco stuff on here when the vote's been counted and everyone's moving on b) Glasgow Rangers are dead, just like Airdrieonians c) I lived in St Pauli when I adopted this username - nothing to do with Celtic d) Celtic going out of business one day would be fantastic e) your username shows you're bitter

get over it (and others of the same ilk) It's difficult to put any kind of response together when you refuse to accept reality.
TCFKAR are gone, vanished,terminated. It was liquidated.
A Newco has been accepted into the SFL 3rd division under circumstances which anyone who claims to be a supporter should be very grateful for.
Whatever the Newco call themselves they have no history,no trophies and the highly paid badge kissers have done "walking away".

People were murdered when Rangers played Celtic but that probably comes under the banner of banter.
I suspect quite a few towns in Scotland will have to clean up the mess after Newco have visited and spread their "banter" around.
It is just beyond my understanding how anyone cannot see that both OF clubs have encouraged and thrived on religious hatred for all of their existence.

I hear what you're saying about family background influencing the teams you support Fifeyboab. I follow another team for similar reasons, but they play in England not Scotland so are not competitors in any way and in any case they will never be my team in the same way that East Fife is (i bet GoF says the same about the Whitecaps). Each to their own of course but I have lived away from Fife for many years throughout my life (in fact a lot more outside the county) but I couldn't (and didn't) shift allegiance's just because I couldn't see East Fife very week. I watched other local teams wherever I was but I really didn't care that much about they got on.

In Scotland, its East Fife or nothing. If we went bust that would be it. I have no remote affections for any other club.

We're up to the knees in fienian blood , surrender or ye'll die . BANTER EH ?

In response to the original post, perhaps there has been an over-emotive response to the death of Rangers and the subsequent disgraceful efforts to install the Newco in their place but surely he or she must acknowledge the reasons for this.

The refusal of the club formerly known as Rangers to sign players of a certain religious persuasion for the best part of a century. Someone who has supported Rangers for over 50 years presumably embraced this policy.
The sectarian singing with particular reference to the aforementioned religious group.
The glorifying of terrorists.
The behaviour of their fans in particular at Barcelona and Manchester.
I could go on.

To wish for other teams to die makes u as bitter as the rest.
Yes,there are idiots who follow the old firm but there are also football fans who follow them and they dont all come along when the old firm are in town...loads stay in Levenmouth and have never been to Parkhead or Ibrox.
Scottish Football needs all its teams and fans.

Over 41'000 turned up at Ibrox when Rangers played East fife in 1997...much needed money to keep East Fife alive when we can hardly attract 600 for a league game,take an average of 600fans x 18 home games=10'800

It seems to me that this whole Rangers/Newco thing has taken over aftn. Getting a bit boring now.

Seems that Rangers fans still dont get it.Rangers are dead,we were not voting to let Rangers into the first.We were voting to let a new team into the third.RANGERS ARE DEAD.....DEAL WITH IT......

Having read some of the to my post l think l need to clear somethings up;

1. l am originally from Goven brought up in the shaddows of lbrox, then moved to Wemyss when my father who was an electrician took up a job offer at the Michael pit, hence the liking of Rangers.

2.Although a "Rangers man" as soon as my sons were old enough l took them to Bayview not lbrox. They still follow East Fife to this day, but have a leaning towards Rangers in old firm games ect.

3.John Terry was found not guilty.

4.Although my father followed Rangers he was never a bigot, my mother is catholic.

5.Those people who say they wish any football team to die, are not true football fans and are probably more bigoted than they care to admit.

6. Rangers only bring 5000-6000 fans with them. l don't think East Fife will have to worry about that many as Bayview only holds 2000.
oh and last time l seen it with as many people inside the ground, was when kennoway played their Scottish tie there.

7. Yes there are songs both sides of the old firm should be ashamed off, but in recent years great strides have been taken by Rangers to curb the sectarian element inside lbrox.
some of the best banter l have heard have come from celtic supporters giving me a dig when they win, l love it!

8. To those poor unfortunate souls who think its a club with no history. why do you refere to Rangers supporters (newco) in the same way as you think about Rangers supporters (oldco)? l'll tell you why, it's because they'll be called "Rangers", same as before, they'll play in same colours as before, play in same ground as before and be followed by the same supporters as before!
Although l can understand Celtic supporters reasons for wanting Rangers unrivaled history to be wiped from the history books, l cant for the life of me understand why other clubs would want this? unless of course they are closet celtic men.
the only thing that has changed is the trading name, but no doubt no matter how many times they are told they will only believe what they want.

9.Two men shafted Rangers, then 200,000 bigots not football fans couldn't wait to join in.

10.Rangers fans are proud to be Scottish but are also proud to be British, hence the singing of our national anthem and rule Britannia. They are singing about their love of all things British, which they have a right to do. lt also gives celtic supporters the right to boo, shout and swear during the minutes silence for those who faught for that right.

fought sorry lol

The only one mentioning history is you. The only poor, unfortunate souls (as you say) are the decent Rangers fans who've lost their club. That club is dead, achieved what it achieved, but it's dead now none-the-less. The fans will follow a new Rangers now - just like Airdrie.

I have no shame in wanting both old firm to go out of business. They are not normal football clubs with local fans. Both sets of fans glorify terrorists. The game is in the state it is because of fans deserting local sides for the glory and/or religious affinity of following either of them. When Raith were in dire straits, I was well happy they pulled through.....but the old firm, Scotland's shame, the 'people', the Celtic 'family' - no chance. No one likes you and you don't care, right?

Normal Norman; You are fishing here,right?

Not fishing, l'm just saying it as l see it.
Even SFA see Rangers newco as same team! as they want them to accept the unlaweful sanctions and transfer embargo they tried to impose.
Have a look at the leaked e-mail Stewart Regan sent out to other spl club chairmen.
He is to blame for the shambles, he has to go along with any of the others who were involved.
Rangers supporters accept and in fact wanted to go to Div 3, because they didn't want the, "you got special treatment" thrown back at them by all the anti Rangers mob.
As l said, l'll be at Bayview again this season and will definately be there when my hometown club comes to visit, hopefully in Div 1.

St Pauli; Answer me this Hypothetical question. If East Fife went into liquidation and were reformed as "The East Fife", played in same stadium, played in same colours, in fact all but a trading name was the same.
1. would you still support them?
2. would you forget about their history?
3. or if for some reason they didn't reform, would you then support your local team which would be Raith Rovers?

I will say, the new Rangers should have a clean slate with no sanctions. The oldco law breakers will be chased one by one through the courts by HMRC.

The boy is on the wind up. He cannae even spell Govan ffs.

St Pauli; Answer me this Hypothetical question. If East Fife went into liquidation and were reformed as "The East Fife", played in same stadium, played in same colours, in fact all but a trading name was the same.
1. would you still support them?
2. would you forget about their history?
3. or if for some reason they didn't reform, would you then support your local team which would be Raith Rovers?

I'd be proud of, and never forget, East Fife's history. If the club folded that would be it - history frozen in time for evermore. I'd probably follow a new East Fife if they played in black and gold in Methil but it would be a reincarnation of East Fife FC (1903) who won all those cups. Again, ask Airdrie Utd fans who once followed Airdrieonians.

Also ask yourself why Rangers fans were in tears on the news when Rangers died?

And no, I'd never follow Raith, or any other non-East Fife team - ever.

Your username is ironic...

St Pauli, your name is ironic


Socratic irony when you're involved lol

I'm impressed you're aware of Socratic irony but less impressed you can't spell the place you supposedly hail from.

Going back to my post, you now agree Rangers FC is dead?

Rangers will never Die, but if you are happy in your bubble then who am l to burst it?

The way I see it, if the Newco/Sevco want to adopt the history of the now kaput Rangers, they should also adopt all their debts and pay them off.

This is a very tedious situation now though that has been discussed to death. Fortunately it looks like the Newco might not even get to play in the Third Division now though as they are not SFA members.

Henderson, Grieg, Baxter et al were indeed Scottish but all of them were products of a club that followed a policy of sectarianism and would only sign people from a Protestant background. That was, and will always remain, a stain on society and Scottish football and I suspect the vast majority of Rangers supporters still place those ideals in front of everything else when they choose or chose which club to support.

I'm confused. What is it we're being asked to get over again?

Soc you always look confused! Thinking never was your forte, was it? Now sarcasm you do well, although bitterness was never a good trait either.

just in case you didn't know Rangers history;


Rangers Football Club


Founded: 1873

Ground: Ibrox Stadium

Capacity: 51,082

Nicknames: The Gers, Light Blues, Teddy Bears

Chairman:
Malcolm Murray
Chief Executive: Charles Green

Manager: Ally McCoist

Colours: Royal blue with red and white trim, white shorts with red and blue trim, black socks with red tops

Domestic Honours:

League champions: (54 titles) 1891, 1899, 1900, 1901, 1902, 1911, 1912, 1913, 1918, 1920, 1921, 1923, 1924, 1925, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1937, 1939, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1953, 1956, 1957, 1959, 1961, 1963, 1964, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1987, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010, 2011

Scottish Cup Winners: (33) 1894, 1897, 1898, 1903, 1928, 1930, 1932, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1953, 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1966, 1973, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2008, 2009

Scottish League Cup: (27) 1947, 1949, 1961, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1971, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1997, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2008, 2010-2011

International Honours:

Cup Winners’ Cup: (1) 1972

Do Rangers/newco/sevco have a forum you can post this on? Maybe someone there will give a shit.

And that is how that club's history will remain forever more. Frozen in history. You should print it out and frame it. No wonder those Rangers fans on the telly were actually crying tears. They knew the score, unlike you (or are willing to admit). You'll get over it.

you keep telling yourself that Pauli, you yourself may even believe it, if you say it to yourself often enough!

/ verge of tears /

St Pauli, the supporters were crying, of that their is no doubt. The passion these supporters have for their club is just the same passion and tears shed by Fife supporters when they won the league.
Some people are more emotional than others when it comes to the club they love.
l support East Fife remember! l just get sick of the double standards, hipocricy and out and out bias against Scotlands greatest ever club.
The hatred you have for them or any other club is unhealthy and tell me your no sportsman!
SO You stick with your "wee clique" l bet they believe every word you say.

I can only try again, if Rangers aren't dead, why are fans physically crying ?

I'll answer your questions but you won't answer mine.

Ps, Being sporting together with glorhunting and bigotry doesn't go.

Pps, In my eyes, Scotland's greatest ever Club is East Fife Football Club.

If you weren't a gloryhunter you wouldn't be posting Rangers' honours on EF messageboards and calling them the greatest team in the universe. You don't go and see them but you still want to be associated with them none-the-less, being "Scotland's most successful team". That's about as pure as gloryhunting gets.

No one had a greet when Brown was here. A few might've done if the club had died like yours has, right enough. Who could've blamed them.

So with this thread being dead (excused the pun) long now, I need to know what exactly have EF fans, that you addressed in your first post, got to 'get over' ?

Moderators can you please delete this thread as we are all getting bored of the Rangers crap on this forum.

Well, if you think I, and almost every other Scottish club, have a 'tic bias, you really are deluded (and clutching at straws). Glad you watch the Fife though.

Very intelligent response. Pillar of the community you are.

I am an East Fife fan, have been for 42 years. I have seen rangers play and was astounded at the passion shown by the fans at iprix, however, the bigotry ran just as passionately.
Although both Murray and to a lesser extent Whyte should be jailed for what they did to Rangers the venom that is rising from all corners of scotland should be a wake up call to both fans and club to sort themselves out. I have not seen/heard any apology for the actions of murray/whyte and fans should be asking themselves why they are detested so much. Its not because the club won many trophy's its there attitude and the bigotry they show, the violence that has followed them throughout europe, remember manchester a few years ago. this does nothing to help the cause of scottish football.
I understand companies house have also refused to grant sevco the name rangers, so it does appear that the 'history' will remain just that, think Third Lanark cos thats where you are now.

Paddy Power offering 25/1 the field v sevco for promotion next season, ill have some of that

A lot of people don't think of of a football club when the topic of Rangers is raised. Their first thoughts are often sectarianism, bigotry, hooliganism, the union flag etc. To this you can now add corruption, cheating and lies to the roll of dishonour. This is how Rangers will now be remembered. Football is just a by-product.

The list of trophies above is now meaningless especially those acquired over the past 25 years or so.

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Full name Rangers Football Club
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Rangers Football Club was a football club based in Glasgow, who played in the Scottish Premier League until the end of the 2011-12 season. The club's home was the all-seated 51,082-capacity Ibrox Stadium in south-west Glasgow. Rangers had a fierce rivalry with Celtic; the two Glasgow clubs being collectively known as the Old Firm.


Can i state that the most important part of the paragraph is aboveas there are constant past tense words and phrases chosen ''were'' etc, they ''were'' a team in SPL or Scotland, they aren't anymore because as a couple of guys have mentioned before the club is dead. So you can post all of the old co's honours etc because they won't be added to, the point is they are dead so now sir can ''get over it''.

the late great brian clough once said 'rangers, thats not a football team, thats a gang of villans' how prophetic

Aye it's pure a'body's fault except for Rainjurs.

Still no explanation about why you were happy to follow a club with a sectarian signing policy though.

Wake me up when the season starts. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ............................................

l have no reason to hide the fact l followed Rangers in my younger days, l said that from the get go.
As l've said, if you are not interested in this thread, then why comment on it?
l just think Rangers will hopefully bring in much needed revenue to the lower leagues, which in turn can only be for the betterment of Scottish football as a whole.
lf you feel so badly about Rangers playing in same league as us, boycott both games against them or better still get right behind East Fife like l will! wont stop me wanting Rangers to do well too though.

If Rangers are dead, ergo all of their tainted trophies revert to their rightful owners!!!

Does that mean that we can be helping ourselves to the 1950 Scottish Cup now, thanks!!!

Can't be bothered checking it but there must be a few clubs who have never won a cup who can claim a victory now that TCFKAR are goosed. Please God don't let RR think they are Scottish Cup winners.

isn't it funny how many of the haters have cheered right up after drawing Rangers lol the word Hypocrits springs to mind.

Its because we are playing a team thats never played in this competition before and history will be made.

keep telling yourself that, you may even believe it one day too.
Sid's eyes went three times the size when East Fife came out the hat. lol
Hopefully the money we get will go towards building a covered terrace around the ground. nothing fancy just so it looks like a football ground once again.

You must have thought you had died and gone to heaven when you heard that draw......Who will you be supporting

I realise that this is a new squeaky clean, honest non-sectarian club that we are up against but I think the EFFC board should be asking for our share of the gate receipts up front, just to be on the safe side.

Yes l thought it was a great draw for us, l will be there in black & gold, (will you?)
East Fife will make more money from this one game than they did for whole of last season, so all the haters give credit where credit is due.
l only hope we draw them or celtic away again in the Scottish cup too!

i think the hypocrite part relates more to those who wanted rangers dead and never return + have the likes of Spartans to take their place

you hit nail on the head kenwit. The Same hypocritical EF supporters who want Rangers and their supprters gone, are not true supporters of the Scottish game.
The venom shown in some of their posts shows bigotry at its worse, but because the "big two" but more so Rangers are easy targets, they think their poison posts can go unchallenged and under the radar.

Bob it may not be a whole seasons earnings but you'd have to have 14 full houses at bayview to come close to what will be earned by that one visit to lbrox.
For a club like EF that is a godsend, money that can be spent upgrading and improving facilites at Bayview that otherwise would have taken longer to do.

There are idiots who follow every team, but they are alway a small minority of attention seekers who are hellbent on spoiling it for everyone.
As long as the majority hold sway, then there is hope for Scottish football.
Let the banter continue, but please stop this " l hope they die" posts, because karma can be a bitch!

Hope who dies ? They're already dead.

To ?,

I was born in 1947 so yes l was,

Scottish League Cup:

Winners (3): 1948, 1950, 1954

R/U Scottish Cup too 1950

Though l admit l wasn't at any of the above matches.

Bob if you truely dont know what l'm saying then whats the point?
We always sit on our moral "high horse" looking down at the nasty OF, but lf we see the death of a club then just gloat about it, were/are we the sportsmen we think we are?
Think about it!

St Pauline, you stick to pretending ur a supporter of the beautiful game. Everyone knows you not!

I follow East Fife to every game home and away plus all friendlies so yes I will be there......A Newco fan asking for credit,you couldn't make it up lol

perochial to the last bob, well done

Is it true that the Bob Marley classic from 1979 has been re released but now its called "No Rangers No SKY"?

Give it a rest, get over it. Any support you might have got in your argument just wanes away with every post you make now mate!

i would have thought exodus would have been more appropriate bob marley song

Sorry to bump this thread up. Too good not to share.

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