That is all.

Just back.... And echo the above.... Total feckin Tosser!.... arrogance personified ......

Taxi for Levein!

Serious reality check needed. Sadly we are in the third division of world football. Serbia would have come expecting to win. Who is the next mamger going to bring in? We have nobody that would get in England or France's second team...maybe the keeper,,,and they are not at the top table of world football. one comparison with England..they too think they are a lot better than they actually are.

It's not so much a case of who would we bring in. We have some talented guys in the squad.

Levein keeps picking the wrong players and going with the wrong tactics.

If he plays like that in a vital home match, then god help us in the first two away games.

gof is right, these are talented players who we get very little out of. levein is promoted way above his station, and deep down he knows it. he knows he is not an international football manager. his tactics are grounded in avoiding the humiliation that could happen if he left himself exposed against a better manager. that's what was behind the czech republic formation. he doesn't have the confidence to play a more expansive game, home or away, and he never will. he just hasn't got it. we know that, we've seen it, and yesterday was just more of the same.
even yesterday, he wouldn't risk a more attacking formation until nine minutes from the end. his thinking is: i will try to nick a goal, and if it backfires, the opposition can't score many goals in just nine minutes.
he's also stubborn, which further weakens his prospects. steven fletcher holds blame for the on-going situation, but there is only one person in scotland who can sort this out. mr levein. and he doesn't want to. that is an abuse of his responsibility to scotland football fans.

One plus point was Paul Dixon, who was excellent.

I got a lot of "didn't know your manager was blind" jokes today cos of his stupid glasses. If only they knew!

For once I am as depressed as SPF and agree with what he says. Prague was a decision that no one in football could ever defend and on Saturday we had as talented a squad as we have had for several years but here we are, after one dismal game, hanging on by a thread.
I only saw it on the tv but the crowd just seemed to get quieter and quieter as the game went on and hardly surprising. There was a spell in the second half when we were just incapable of getting the ball past the half way line.
We have an ultra-cautious and unimaginative manager so why should we be surprised at the style of football we play.
A boring 1-0 win on Tuesday will only paint over the cracks as unless we give what skill we have a chance we will be back where we are so often i.e we can finish second if we win our last two games 4-0 with bad results for the table leaders.

When the job was up for grabs I wanted Levein to get it but after Prague he should have been told to leave his post!!

Some of the players that started need a hard kick in the baws after that display especially Alan Hutton, this guy is one lazy bast@rd loses the ball time after time then trotts back into position how can levein pick him if he isnt getting a game no consistency!!

Think its time that the SFA put Mr Levein out on his arse and bring in either Walter Smith, Billy Davies, Gordan Strachan or Joe Jordan.

I thought he almost got it spot on. Only down side was not making changes early enough. Mackie done none more in 5 mins by getting in their faces than anyon did.

Is it CL's fault tht Naismaith couldn't hit the target when clear through?

Big problem now is were are chasing it bit time. A win yesterday would have taken the pressure off for Tues.

I was at the game. If confirmation that Kenny Millers role as first choice striker is over was needed then we got it there. By all means bring him on with 20 or 10 to go to harry the defence and chase down balls but no way a starter.

Levein said in hindsight he should have changed things earlier. He must have been the only person in Hampden that needed hind sight to see that.

Many people believe the chanting for Jordan Rhodes with 25 minutes to go made Mr Stubborn change his plans to make point. Brining on Forrest then Mackie then last of all Rhodes was seen as more evidence if his arrogance and pig headedness.

I thought Hutton played ok and you cant blame the manager for senior players not being able to control the ball properly or string two passes together. We are very average without Brown and Fletcher in Midfield. However C L's tactics and lack of motivation succeeded where many have failed in silencing the famous Hampden Roar.

We were lucky to get a point! Both Hutton and Naismith should have received straight red cards. We should be attacking these teams, we have some great attacking options right now but yet again Mr negative Levein plays the safe card and it could have been worse had it not been for a great save from McGregor right at the death.

Must win game against Macedonia 2moro, they gave Croatia a fright so certainly won`t be easy. Start Rhodes please Craig, Miller way past his best now.

Rhodes on the bench for tonights game....IVAN LENDL as manager

Worst 20 min, arguably, I've ever seen a Scotland play at Hampden. Man management, belief. Defensive damage limitation from the off. FUCKING SHITE.

Right Levein, Saturday wasn't a must win (you said), what about now??

We'd half the goal attempts against Macedonia at Hampden in a genuine must-win game. Never seen the likes.

Get him to fuck.

Turns out Lichtenstein at Hampden wasn't a bad dream after all.

Scotland wont be at any major finals for probably the next 10yrs.they are crap..never mind blaming Levein..guys like Gary Caldwell Andy Webster Kenny Miller etc have no 1st touch and cant play basic 10yard passes for players to run on to.
Caldwell 51 caps, what a joke! Hutton cant get a game for Villa,Berra doesnt get a game for championship team Wolves,Dixon only playing cause he played for Dundee utd.
2pts from 6 so far and for me thats been over-achieved,should've easily been 0pts.
Levein will be out after Wales win in October and some other manager will use the same crappy players and system.

Why do you refer to Scotland as 'they'?

And I've always never been his biggest fanbut Caldwell was our best player in the first half - and probably the second too.

At international level you need a manager who can inspire, motivate, support, encourage, and Lead.

Look at Levin , listen to Levin......does he strike you as someone that tick any of the above.

I rest my case.

Surely Levein's position is now untenable.

The TA are starting to show their displeasure by simply not turning up now.

McGregor had a good game on Saturday but was simply immense last night.

Woeful stuff.

Worse than Berti Vogts!!! He has to go before we have no fans or team left...

Agree ping pong... Was there last nite and the mood in the stadium was not pleasant .... Levein has to go there will be no one wanting to part with their cash for that shite... Truly woeful!

I actually thought last night was an entertaining game, mainly due to the way Macedonia played. They cut through Scotland with ease, and if it wasn't for Macgregor and the post, would have left deserved winners.

Levein should have held his hand up after the Lichtenstein debacle, and admitted he wasn't up to the job, and at every turn thereafter he has just confirmed his lack of ability.
Kris Commons and Steven Fletcher should have walked into the squad on current form, but are not good enough for Levein. His dealing of Lee Wallace / Ian Black, the drubbing in Jacksonsville, the 6-4-0 in Prague, his too late substitutions on Saturday, and his ( I pick the team) selection last night, have all but cost us world cup qualification already.

I don't think it helps that he has nomarks like Peter Houston (nice guy, but not really a manager) and Kenny Black (bunped from Airdrie for being hopeless, yet turns up as Scotland coach). I don't think the players take these guys seriously.
Also, Levien is delighted that the players pay for nothing, and only get rewarded for qualifying. I thnk they saw the group, thought no chance of qualifying so we'll no try too hard, and come and enjoy the 5 star lifestyle for a week. Just not good enough. Pay then the going rate, then you might get performances.
The only manager, club or country, I have previously booed is Gavin Murray. You are in good company Mr Levein

Tantamount to incompetence.

Thanks KotS.
I was reading in the paper today that in addtion to Houston and Black, Levein's backroom staff consists of Mick Oliver (ex Albion Rovers manager) and Des Mckeowen (who briefly reached the same heights at Ochilview).
And we wonder why we struggle.

Levein should have been punted before this campaign started. 2 points against poor opposition at home, we have no chance of going to Rio.

So, just to reiterate my original post, FUCK OFF NOW LEVEIN.

He needs to go and go tonight.

Actually, did you ever see a game anywhere that had two such objectionable cnuts for the managers?

He should've gone a month ago. I don't particularly blame for tonight. He put out an attacking team (out of desperation) and we were outplayed by a shocking Wales team. The game was there to win until Adam sold the game, sleeping after the stonewall Bale foul for the second. We had a goal chopped off, they had another blatant pen not given. At least the Levein nightmare is going to be over now. Thank fuck.

Really angry that after 3 games when we could have been looking at points....we have 2!!
Will never,ever,ever forgive him for Prague.

Gutted!!

Levein is a total arse. But who really cares about the national side? I'm far more concerned about the state of East Fife than Scotland.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/sport/opinion/spiers-on-sport-levein-is-finished-as-scotland-manager.1350077939

"The Scotland manager’s competitive record now reads: P11 W3 D4 L4"

That is a shocking, shocking record. Especially considering one of those was a win at home against Liechtenstein after 7 minutes of injury time - a 'country' with a population of Levenmouth.

Who do folk want now?

Gordon Strachan
Alex McLeish
Walter Smith
John Collins
Steve Clarke (passionate Scot, his ambition is to manage Scotland)
Owen Coyle
Kenny Dalglish
Harry Redknapp (great man-manager, plays decent pacey football, might be tempted to get back at the FA - stranger things...)
Stuart McCall

My first choice would be Owen Coyle, but can't see him being tempted from club football just yet.

Steve Clarke would be a good one too I feel. He'd definitely bring some of the passion back.

Don't worry, after the massive 'NO' vote for independance you can discontinue with the national side (you don't want it) and start supporting 'Britain'. Who knows? There may even be a player from the northern counties of Midlothian or Strathclyde that one day may play for 'Britain'.....but I doubt it.

For those wanting rid o Levein, how many matches do u give the new manager? He's had 11and many fans wanted him out after 9,so how many will u give the new manager?

Ps people mentioning Redknapp but don't mention his No.2 when at Spurs..... Joe Jordan

It depends on whether the new managers record was as abysmal as Avril's. Would be difficult to be that bad.

To be honest i am struggling to find a redeeming feature for Levein. Even Bertie who was terrible, at least made some attempt to get the fans onside with naming the tartan army on the squadlist. Levein alienated players and fans alike, can never be forgiven for the 4-6-0, and worst of all deals with the media like a bull in a china shop. As for his replacement, I would love a Kenny Dalglish or Gordon Strachan, however i would suggest the reason that Levein was hired was probably because with no substantial record of club success he was a cheaper option.

And you still have Moron`s like Bill Leckie supporting him. His column in yesterdays paper was laughable.

Ironically, I could see us nicking a win - the team's good enough on paper and the game is now meaningless.

I've put a wee cheeky pound on us.

6 games of the campaign left and its all over!! sad state of affairs for Scottish fitba tbh

Forgot about Billy Davies (as well as Jordan).

I'd like S Clarke, O Coyle or S McCall. Attractive, positive football. Bar Celtic, Strachan hasn't really done anything in loads of jobs. He can be pretty cautious too - defended Levein's tactics in the first 2 games this campaign. I can't actually believe how bad Levein's record actually is (that's without looking at the Liechtenstein and 4-6-0 debacles).

The campaign just started and it's over. Never thought I'd see that from any Scotland team.

At least we seem to have a truly world class goalie.

Northern Ireland leading Portugal away now.

i'd go for Strachan,Jordan,Clarke and Davies to replace Commons, Fletcher,Hutton and Mcarthur.

Everyone slaughtering Levein BUT he's picking a team of players that most fans want ...big Media pressure to include S.Fletcher and Commons(who was terrible in both games).its ok fans talking about style of play and formations but these players are absolutely garbage they cannot pass a ball to a team-mate 10 yards away and have no 1st touch.

For all those wanting a new manager then what will he do...make these players great?
Nevermind sack the manager...Levein should sack the players

There is always the possibility that Scotland are simply not good enough. Belgium looked a class side last night; they out-fought us, were stronger on the ball and individually were better players.

We do not have players of exceptional quality and haven't done for years and no amount of tactical nouse can do a lot about that.

Get the lazy youngsters away from computer games and back on the playing fields; it's a long term solution that is required.

I don't go along with that bit about tactics and lack of great players. We need an inspirational manager who can use the resources we have to their greatest effect. Who would have thought Greece would win the Euros with a team of unknowns and even Barca get beaten (now and again) by piddly La Liga teams whose manager has used the right tactics. Our next manager needs to study the team he is playing next and organise his team accordingly.

I just can't see us winning all 10 qualifying games now, like.

Anybody who thought Scotland could compete with Belgium or Croatia were always going to be in for a dissapointing campaign.

Scotland have 4/5 very good players who are playing week in week out in the premier league. McGregor, both Fletchers, Morrison, Dorrans are all good footballers with the rest still at a high enough standard to be able to do well or at the very least compete with teams like Serbia, Wales etc...

Levein is clearly out of his depth & i'm still not sure why exactly he was appointed? He's never been or has never had sustained periods of success in any of his "higher profile" jobs if you can call them that. You can tell he doesn't believe in what he's actually saying to the press etc...he's on borrowed time & will be out of the job by Friday I think(hope).

What next? I think the SFA & the fans need to ditch the whole it has to be Scottish manager idea. They need someone who believes in playing football the right way, getting it down & passing it. Someone a bit controversial, not scared to make big decisions, someone with a bit of "swaggar". Get them in by next months friendly with Luxembourg(pointess btw) & try win some of the remaining fixtures to make sure they don't fall even lower in the seedings.

I do like the Harry Redknapp/Joe Jordan idea.
I don't like the Gordon Strachen idea.

Even Caldwell can be taught to pass the ball properly it just needs practice, practice and more practice. Work on the tactics and passing the ball. Someone mentioned the Barca midfield - well all these guys do for hours is practice one touch football. Some serious coaching is needed in Scotland.

He's seeking legal advice for his sacking

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/spl-levein-taking-legal-advice-sacking-193916604.html

Could you imagine Levein pretty much starting 2 up front against the world's best team and bringing on a young striker instead of shoring up? Or even against Serbia or Macedonia?

The fans who travelled to Prague should sue Levein.

Also, get players like Miller out (as good a servant as he's been) and get young players like Watt and Griffiths in.

Disappointed that after being given 35k a month until end of contract (20 months) that Craig is seeking legal advice over sacking. Hello!! I did have a bit of time for the guy but if he continues with this he will make the idiots who hired him look like victims. Fair enough he should have been put out of misery earlier but I think he has done well out of it. Craig take a holiday enjoy life, go and have a cuppa with Gordon Durie, ask him what it's like to have to leave your job! Get a grip and get over yourself. Go and watch the dung you could double their gate and buy them a couple of players, or some poo bags to pick up all the s"&t which surrounds their stock car track with a dod of weeds in the middle

to be fair, he's probably checking out the contractual situation. Nothing wrong in that. He needs to be clear on what he can and can't do......legally that is......we all know what he can't do as a manager

He is if the question is name a funny wee ginger chap who is out of a job and has actually won some things in top level football.

Won stuff in a two horse race (Old Firm bubble within the SPL). If he'd (or any other manager) not won anything with Celtic, he'd have been a catastrophic failure.

Did nothing with any other team he managed.

Defended Levein's negative tactics. That's enough for me. I'm quite sure he'll get the job regardless. We need an inspirational manger to give the players belief to go and beat teams with positive football.

'pretty much' but not dead. It's pretty much dead in top level club football too. Unless players have the sensational ability of Barca (with numerous midfielders as good as any striker), one up front is borne out of either keeping possession and/or nullifying the opposition - it's not about attacking. That's why Spain won the World Cup scoring 7 goals in the entire tournament.

McCoist plays one up front all season - 3 draws and a defeat against part-timers. Plays 2 up top and they destroy Alloa 7-0. Hmmm

One of the reasons I became disillusioned watching East Fife was watching one up front and creating 1 or 2 shots on target in the entire 90mins - numerous times

I never said you have to be a top level side to play one up front. Most teams do now. If the opposition plays 5 in midfield - you have to too or you don't stand a chance.

But, again, East Fife mustered 1 or 2 shots on target in a whole game with 1 up front and that's about the size of it. Most fans would rather win 4-3 than 1-0 in a boring game of chess. I like watching my teams score goals - maybe that's just me.

I like 3-5-2/5-3-2 but you need two, pacey, ball-playing full-backs.

Good luck Strachan.