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FAO . JOCKY

Where do we go now ? Opinion please ?

Re: FAO . JOCKY

mr 305
Where do we go now ? Opinion please ?


Hopefully, in your case ..... tae f*ck!

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Well, seeing Jocky is unavailable at the moment ?
with being Jocky's pal ? can you pass on my kind regards and best wishes ?

But i really wonder what is his opinion on the current situation at the club ?
I hope he won't tell me to get to go tae f*ck like you have ?
Im only a supporter interested in peoples opinions who constantly condemn negative posts on this forum ?



Re: FAO . JOCKY

Current situation at the club is that we are not winning games. Surprised you didn't know that? Obviously, you think that means the end of East Fife - yes, no? I don't!

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Jocky
Current situation at the club is that we are not winning games. Surprised you didn't know that? Obviously, you think that means the end of East Fife - yes, no? I don't!


What now ? Jocky ?

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Prepare better for the next game and win it, simple!

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Aye mate , we are not in a good place just now ! are we ? hope you have some ideas to help us out ? how do we improve ? where are we going wrong ? how do we get better this season ? opinion welcome ?

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mr305
Aye mate , we are not in a good place just now ! are we ? hope you have some ideas to help us out ? how do we improve ? where are we going wrong ? how do we get better this season ? opinion welcome ?


That's just it mr305. Like you, I am NOT a football coach and I am sorry to to tell you that, whatever you or I think, matters not a hoot.

I do not think that anybody else on this forum is qualified either and all I read is - get rid of this player, that coach etc, etc. Some are even questioning Gordon Durie's position and he is in his sick bed!

I believe it will be sorted out soon and that may mean some players will leave and new ones will arrive. What I disagree with, are the comments that are questioning the resolve of the club to get a winning team on the park, as clearly, they are trying, by signing players and getting loan players. Maybe not the best way to do it in some peoples eyes, but that is how it is and I am happy to continue to support the only team, I ever will support. I am totally NOT interested in how Cowden, RR or Dunfermline are doing, couldn't care less, because I will not be going west to support any of them.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Well, you would be in trouble if you went any further east.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Jocky
mr305
Aye mate , we are not in a good place just now ! are we ? hope you have some ideas to help us out ? how do we improve ? where are we going wrong ? how do we get better this season ? opinion welcome ?


That's just it mr305. Like you, I am NOT a football coach and I am sorry to to tell you that, whatever you or I think, matters not a hoot.

I do not think that anybody else on this forum is qualified either and all I read is - get rid of this player, that coach etc, etc. Some are even questioning Gordon Durie's position and he is in his sick bed!

I believe it will be sorted out soon and that may mean some players will leave and new ones will arrive. What I disagree with, are the comments that are questioning the resolve of the club to get a winning team on the park, as clearly, they are trying, by signing players and getting loan players. Maybe not the best way to do it in some peoples eyes, but that is how it is and I am happy to continue to support the only team, I ever will support. I am totally NOT interested in how Cowden, RR or Dunfermline are doing, couldn't care less, because I will not be going west to support any of them.


I think it only natural to look at your near neighbours and especially in Cowdens case cast an envious glance at how they have consistently done better than us for a long long time now on very limited resources and in a dump of a ground. We meanwhile have stagnated year after year since we won promotion to the 2nd. And that is unacceptable, no matter how you look at it

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S-Pat
Jocky
mr305
Aye mate , we are not in a good place just now ! are we ? hope you have some ideas to help us out ? how do we improve ? where are we going wrong ? how do we get better this season ? opinion welcome ?


That's just it mr305. Like you, I am NOT a football coach and I am sorry to to tell you that, whatever you or I think, matters not a hoot.

I do not think that anybody else on this forum is qualified either and all I read is - get rid of this player, that coach etc, etc. Some are even questioning Gordon Durie's position and he is in his sick bed!

I believe it will be sorted out soon and that may mean some players will leave and new ones will arrive. What I disagree with, are the comments that are questioning the resolve of the club to get a winning team on the park, as clearly, they are trying, by signing players and getting loan players. Maybe not the best way to do it in some peoples eyes, but that is how it is and I am happy to continue to support the only team, I ever will support. I am totally NOT interested in how Cowden, RR or Dunfermline are doing, couldn't care less, because I will not be going west to support any of them.


I think it only natural to look at your near neighbours and especially in Cowdens case cast an envious glance at how they have consistently done better than us for a long long time now on very limited resources and in a dump of a ground. We meanwhile have stagnated year after year since we won promotion to the 2nd. And that is unacceptable, no matter how you look at it



Totally agree.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

So is the sum total of the teams efforts to take a few bigger scalps? I remember when we did this in the 1960's and it was good but we were stuck in the second division from 1958 to 1971. Sure it was great seeing us beat Celtic at home an Motherwell away in various cups but might have appreciated the team getting promoted quicker than 1971.

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Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


Won the Second Division at a canter last season, the league we were in, not sure how it would be possible "not to follow" that when supporting East Fife.

They pumped us four times out of four by the way.

And don't try to claim the Second Division title is "nothing of note" for East Fife in the 21st Century, most of our fans alive today have seen us win the Third Division, nothing more. I'd absolutely love us to win the Second Division.

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Fred
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


Won the Second Division at a canter last season, the league we were in, not sure how it would be possible "not to follow" that when supporting East Fife.

They pumped us four times out of four by the way.

And don't try to claim the Second Division title is "nothing of note" for East Fife in the 21st Century, most of our fans alive today have seen us win the Third Division, nothing more. I'd absolutely love us to win the Second Division.


Totally agree

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Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


Come on Jocky, you can spout better pish than this lame effort.
Let me offer a suggestion to get your creative juices flowing. Do you have a single critical thing to say about anything the club has done over the past ten years?

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


It's difficult to know whether to laugh or cry at that reply.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

S-Pat
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


It's difficult to know whether to laugh or cry at that reply.


Re: FAO . JOCKY

Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


That quote is utterly pathetic. As long as we get a cup win against a bigger team once in while then all is ok.
Note how Jocky hasn`t come on to justify himself but is still posting on other threads.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

J.Nisbet
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


That quote is utterly pathetic. As long as we get a cup win against a bigger team once in while then all is ok.
Note how Jocky hasn`t come on to justify himself but is still posting on other threads.


Why does he need to justify himself?? I have been reading through the posts on this thread, and it seems to me as though a lot of the messages have very little point! Rather than bitching and moaning he is advocating that we simply follow our team and support them, and that he doesnt care about the other teams in fife. Seems to me some people wont be happy until he comes on the forum and starts demanding the management and the board get the punt!!
The team isnt doing well and is underperforming, fair enough people arent happy. If some fans have lost faith in the team then i cant blame them, but why have a go at the fans who still have hope we can turn things around??

Re: FAO . JOCKY

In The Gordons We Trust
J.Nisbet
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


That quote is utterly pathetic. As long as we get a cup win against a bigger team once in while then all is ok.
Note how Jocky hasn`t come on to justify himself but is still posting on other threads.


Why does he need to justify himself?? I have been reading through the posts on this thread, and it seems to me as though a lot of the messages have very little point! Rather than bitching and moaning he is advocating that we simply follow our team and support them, and that he doesnt care about the other teams in fife. Seems to me some people wont be happy until he comes on the forum and starts demanding the management and the board get the punt!!
The team isnt doing well and is underperforming, fair enough people arent happy. If some fans have lost faith in the team then i cant blame them, but why have a go at the fans who still have hope we can turn things around??


The only time they are on this forum, is to criticise the team, individual players and the management team (even those that are off on the sick), or the board. I don't think there was as much bile in the Brown days actually, in particular, not against the players. Now, a player just needs to make a solitary mistake and the hordes are on him like a ton of bricks! Young lads getting hounded from the club, right from the word go!

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Jocky
The only time they are on this forum, is to criticise the team, individual players and the management team (even those that are off on the sick), or the board. I don't think there was as much bile in the Brown days actually, in particular, not against the players. Now, a player just needs to make a solitary mistake and the hordes are on him like a ton of bricks! Young lads getting hounded from the club, right from the word go!


Jocky that wasn't worth the wait, pal. The only thing worse than pure pish is dull pish. Come on, you can do better! Liven it up a bit!

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Jocky
In The Gordons We Trust
J.Nisbet
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


That quote is utterly pathetic. As long as we get a cup win against a bigger team once in while then all is ok.
Note how Jocky hasn`t come on to justify himself but is still posting on other threads.


Why does he need to justify himself?? I have been reading through the posts on this thread, and it seems to me as though a lot of the messages have very little point! Rather than bitching and moaning he is advocating that we simply follow our team and support them, and that he doesnt care about the other teams in fife. Seems to me some people wont be happy until he comes on the forum and starts demanding the management and the board get the punt!!
The team isnt doing well and is underperforming, fair enough people arent happy. If some fans have lost faith in the team then i cant blame them, but why have a go at the fans who still have hope we can turn things around??


The only time they are on this forum, is to criticise the team, individual players and the management team (even those that are off on the sick), or the board. I don't think there was as much bile in the Brown days actually, in particular, not against the players. Now, a player just needs to make a solitary mistake and the hordes are on him like a ton of bricks! Young lads getting hounded from the club, right from the word go!


No Jocky , we don't want to hound anyone , we just post our opinion on the team and the club. you will defend the team ,club to any extent , even tho we are heading to div 3 . We as fans , supporters will post our concerns and opinions on how we can improve and move up the league . Do you welcome relegation ? as we are heading that way ?

Re: FAO . JOCKY

In The Gordons We Trust
J.Nisbet
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


That quote is utterly pathetic. As long as we get a cup win against a bigger team once in while then all is ok.
Note how Jocky hasn`t come on to justify himself but is still posting on other threads.


Why does he need to justify himself?? I have been reading through the posts on this thread, and it seems to me as though a lot of the messages have very little point! Rather than bitching and moaning he is advocating that we simply follow our team and support them, and that he doesnt care about the other teams in fife. Seems to me some people wont be happy until he comes on the forum and starts demanding the management and the board get the punt!!
The team isnt doing well and is underperforming, fair enough people arent happy. If some fans have lost faith in the team then i cant blame them, but why have a go at the fans who still have hope we can turn things around??

Aye ? how do we do that then ? that is whole point of this thread ?

Re: FAO . JOCKY

mr305
Jocky
In The Gordons We Trust
J.Nisbet
Jocky
And won nothing of note! I can't even remember them taking any big scalps in cups, but then again I don't really follow their scores anyway.


That quote is utterly pathetic. As long as we get a cup win against a bigger team once in while then all is ok.
Note how Jocky hasn`t come on to justify himself but is still posting on other threads.


Why does he need to justify himself?? I have been reading through the posts on this thread, and it seems to me as though a lot of the messages have very little point! Rather than bitching and moaning he is advocating that we simply follow our team and support them, and that he doesnt care about the other teams in fife. Seems to me some people wont be happy until he comes on the forum and starts demanding the management and the board get the punt!!
The team isnt doing well and is underperforming, fair enough people arent happy. If some fans have lost faith in the team then i cant blame them, but why have a go at the fans who still have hope we can turn things around??


The only time they are on this forum, is to criticise the team, individual players and the management team (even those that are off on the sick), or the board. I don't think there was as much bile in the Brown days actually, in particular, not against the players. Now, a player just needs to make a solitary mistake and the hordes are on him like a ton of bricks! Young lads getting hounded from the club, right from the word go!


No Jocky , we don't want to hound anyone , we just post our opinion on the team and the club. you will defend the team ,club to any extent , even tho we are heading to div 3 . We as fans , supporters will post our concerns and opinions on how we can improve and move up the league . Do you welcome relegation ? as we are heading that way ?


Something I posted on another thread -

"As said earlier on AFTN, Dumbarton had a woeful start to last season and were promoted. When we were promoted from the 3rd in 2003, the following season we were top (or 2nd top) of the league at this stage AND, we were relegated!"

Nothing more to say, except to you which is, try supporting the club, team, players, management if you can. You will feel better for it, instead of going through all the turmoil that you are presently experiencing by all accounts.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Jocky=AFTNs answer to Norman Wisdom. Bless him.

Keep it up Jocky. Loving it.

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talent spotter
Jocky=AFTNs answer to Norman Wisdom. Bless him.

Keep it up Jocky. Loving it.


He knows everything you know!

Re: FAO . JOCKY

By jove, these were witty posts lads. Cannae stop laughing!

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Jocky's pal
By jove, these were witty posts lads. Cannae stop laughing!


You contribute F/A to this forum ???????????? WHY ?????

Re: FAO . JOCKY

mr305
Jocky's pal
By jove, these were witty posts lads. Cannae stop laughing!


You contribute F/A to this forum ???????????? WHY ?????


With respect mr305, you seem to think that one must agree with yourself and others when you slag the team etc off. Well, I don't agree with most of all that utter drivel, so live with it! As said many times before, criticise and expect to be criticised back! That applies to all of us.

Re: FAO . JOCKY

But ,where do we go now

Re: FAO . JOCKY

mr305
But ,where do we go now



Bayview on Saturday of course!

Re: FAO . JOCKY

Jocky dizna have any pals. Who you tryin to kid?!

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cecil
Jocky dizna have any pals. Who you tryin to kid?!



I'm doubling up with laughter at that wan noo!! Please stop, ah cannae tak ony mare!!!