Did the AGM take place on Monday and if so was there anything of note said or any probing questions asked?

Bump.

I hope to have a brief summary of the accounts and AGM proceedings out to Trust members over the weekend.
Prior to that,a couple of comments. For the first time ever the club presented a summary of the key points from the accounts. Most of the information was simply extracting figures which were obvious from the P&L but there was a genuine attempt to explain why changes from the previous year's accounts had happened. It wasn't an in-depth analysis but it was a step towards being more open.

As expected,the AFTN posters who were ready to storm the barricades and were demanding "hard" and "difficult" be asked just melted away like snow in the sun. Despite an invitation to send questions I didn't receive one. Look back to the previous AGM thread and read the post from "watcher from afar" and the expression "full of wind and piss" springs to mind.

As an EF fan and well-placed Trust Chairman, you must've surely had some hard and difficult (obvious) questions of your own to pose at the AGM?

I'd no idea the AGM had been and gone.

SPF, what a surprise yet another moan and more criticism. There was a post on here about the AGM, but you have probably chose to ignore that. We all know u don't go to games and won't be back, so why don't u make the same commitment to AFTN. You won't be missed. Between you and Ken(fuck)wit AFTN is turned into moan and bore fest.

I don't remember any invitation to send questions. Is it somewhere on this forum? If it is, it must not have been highlighted. I can't remember any mention of the AGM on this forum in the past two or three weeks.
Were trust members told that the agm was on? It doesn't look like it. All it takes is one email. It can't be much of a surprise if no questions were sent in if members didn't know it was on.

Nov 3rd


http://pub10.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=849684916&frmid=8&msgid=1326489&cmd=show

"GOF. Whoever represents the Trust at the AGM will be more than prepared to ask any "difficult" questions. My email address is shown so any Trust member can send a question accompanied by their name,address and membership no."

The above was posted by NTOC on 5th November.

Let's stop the squabbling. The trust was represented so what questions WERE asked?

Members were not contacted and that is no surprise. The EFSTrust has lost its way in the last two or three years. What has it done, apart from sell raffle tickets once a year? What does it want from East Fife as a club, and what can if offer East Fife apart from the match programme? That's no different than a couple of volunteers working for the club. What does the Trust stand for in 2012? Does its own members have any idea? Did they know the club AGM was on this week? Does the Trust ever communicate with its members?
The Trust chairman has ridiculed supporters on this thread but took care not to mention GOF. But GOF made the same points as others. Is GOF full of piss and wind too? No, he's not. He never has been. Could the chairman explain his position on that one?
Sometimes we read on AFTN the same old tired line that the Trust will do what its members want it to do. How about asking them, then? How about keeping them informed in the first place? It is hard to believe that the club's AGM has come and gone, and members are apparently going to be sent an email to summarise what happened but were not emailed before the event to let them know it was happening or to ask them if they wanted any questions asked. Why did this not happen? We've missed the bus now. Never mind, there will be another along in a year.
When the Trust was set up it was not welcomed by the club, and some questioned why members didn't just join the supporters club instead. That is a difficult suggestion to reject now, because the Trust has become an irrelevance. There is a member on the club board, but are supporters any better informed, or do we have any more influence than before? No. It has become a glorified supporters club, with not much emphasis on the glorified.
It sticks in my throat to say it, but the Trust has become pointless. I doubt if more than half a dozen people would miss it if it was wound up tomorrow.
How many new members have been recruited in the past two years? One? Two? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is zero.
I would stop paying my subs, if anybody bothered to ask for them. I don't even know if I am still officially a member, but the raffle tickets keep coming.

Well trust member you cetainly have some issues with the trust!

I was asked to join several years ago but it was not my cup of tea and I doubted its ability to be effective. But I was gladdened to see what they have achieved. They now have a respectable shareholding in the club and might have had much more if ( through their negotiations with Brook Mileson) Rankin had been willing to sell.( may be wrong on this)

They also made a valiant attempt to oust Broon by solicting proxies wherever they could and were'nt that far away from achieving this.

I am not a particular fan of the trust and have criticized them in the past. Also they have faded abit into the background recently. BUT remember the trust is not only the few officers but ALL it's members and if the members don't push the ooficers and provide ideas for advancement apathy sets in. I'm afraid that's what happened at both top and bottom of the trust.

All members who moan at the trust should attend meetings and stir things up with constructive ideas and crticism.

As for the AGM toc should know from this website and around what is concerning the supporters and not need the formality of receiving an email to ask the relevent questions. We'll see his report on this and also I would hope that Eugene as trust/supporter representative on the board should also have something to say.

What a rant but I hope it gives somethin to think about.

The Trust is still active & perhaps if some of those who are moaning had actually bothered to attend meetings or become involved in the running we would be even more active. Any organisation that has members has to be lead by members requests & demands & it cannot be left to board members to make all the running. If SPF or others had been paying attention it was decided 2 or 3 years ago that paying £10 gave life membership of the Trust.
If anyone is really interested the programme takes around 15 hours to collate & plan each edition that's why I had to take a back seat & TOC now does most if that himself.
Instead of moaning in here come & speak to Allan, Eugene or even me & give us your thoughts & wishes?
I am working on a project that will involve the 2003 promotion winning squad (10 years next year) but like previous things it will no doubt be down to the usual 3-4 who will push it through.
Anybody want to help? I won't hold my breath.

Well said Liam.

How often are their meetings where ordinary trust members can come along and be updated about whats going on ?

The very existence of East Fife is far from certain over the next 5-10 years. Where would the Club be without the Rangers' money? Up shit creek?

Which of the key, obvious, questions were asked of the Board at the AGM by the Trust (or anyone else) and what were the answers given ?

That's all I'm asking on this thread.

NTOC gives his all and more for East Fife and if half of those bitchin (fans)? would step up to the plate and ask how they can help, East Fife would be in a much better place. Ask not what East Fife have done for you but what you have done for East Fife!

Difference is our's does have an influence at board level. Eugene has ruffled more than a few feathers during his time there!

A wee quick point about the subs - £10 is now a life membership. Has been for a few years so you won't be chased for subs.

If your email address is registered with us then you should be receiving regular emails from ToC. If not, email him your current details (as we know this can change) and the secretary will ammend it.

That is all!

i did post questions although the facebook statement answered some of them and i applaud the club for coming out and doing that i still have one question who owns the club. i have contacted club directly and got nowhere

Seems to me like the ones that do all the work take all the crap yet the ones that do f*** all for the club do all the complaining.

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

ANYBODY How often are their meetings where ordinary trust members can come along and be updated about whats going on????????????

Anyone know which questions were asked and the answers given?

Is it a secret?

Are the club obliged to post a detailed account of the agm?

Look on the bright side George.You should have received your third email this afternoon but if not it will give you the opportunity to email someone.
Early next week you should get your fourth email telling you that the Trust AGM will be held later in December. You can treat that as your Christmas night out.(If lonesome george is really "Truckman" George then please don't hit me for this reply)

Four in 12 months? You are a machine. Take the rest of the year off.
What a tragedy that my species became extinct while waiting for your latest bulletin.

Looks like ntoc and his usual sarcastic, know it all and patronising comments have met their match.
Good on ya George

There seem to be some posters on here who either have personal issues with the Trust or enjoy being disgruntled.One thing for sure moaners will never be an endangered species.
As a Trust member from the start, other than attending AGMs and buying raffle tickets,I've done nothing for the Trust but I've great respect for the small number of people who put in a lot of time and effort.

"Opinion is my user name you bawbag"

the real Opinion

Looks like ntoc and his usual sarcastic, know it all and patronising comments have met their match.
Good on ya George

Wouldn't worry about NTOC's comments BOB, he's said a lot worse to my face over the years.He and I have both reached the reluctant conclusion that our best years are behind us and we're shadows of the men we used to be.