3 2 flatters us the day we were miles behind. too many players no performing no fight no passion there second goal was ridiculously easy 3rd division bound with performances like that. dont want to name individuals as it does no good but at least 5 or 6 of the starting 11 could not give a shit and it showed we have no squad no depth and worst of all no fight cannot accept players not trying that is the least you expect whatever level of football you watch

Down.

Once again disappointed! Not naming names either but some should be ashamed of their effort today; unacceptable! Agree with most of what the first poster stated but i would add, we were brutal up until the last 10 mins. The young lads when brought on added a bit passion, spirit and drive that was sadly missing from some of the experienced players... Sad days and I find it hard to see any get out of jail free card apart from replacing a few faces but that ain't going to happen. A starting point though let Liam Gourmley start for feck sake!

Positive news - Stranraer lost by one more goal than us. We have improved our position today.

In yer face Jocky!

What can I say apart from on this showing,we are going down.Leaking too many soft,easy goals.

The midfield consists of four and three of them luxury players who do not put the tackles in.Smith seems to be the only real midfielder who gets stuck in.Its a pity div and stoney (our better players) are at the back as they would give us a bit dig in midfield and a goal threat.As for our fulltime player he should try and get stuck instead of having a bit of a laugh with his mates in the other team.Why does liam gormley not start a game he appears to do more in ten minutes than others do in the whole game ?.Small squad to many players playing who expect to play and do not put the effort in.Has the manager ever seen our other keeper play in a competitive league game?

Same old, same old,no player presses the ball,opposition all the time in the world to drive a bus through the middle of the park.All we do is back of them and make the opposition look like world beaters.Have to agree some players commitment and effort has to be questioned.Antell didnt look to clever with the 3rd goal,but he made some great stops.Mcbride had a decent game.Samuel and barr never did a thing the whole game.Agree that gormley deserves a chance as the same as the forfar game,he did more in 10 minutes than some of his team mates did in 90.Queens have destroyed some teams in this league,so it wasnt a surprise to get beat today.Boy clark up front looks to have a big future.Having said that they didnt look to clever at the back and better teams would punish them.

Queens looked lighyears ahead of us in the first 15 minutes but I thought that, once our players almost got up to their pace, we did ok.
Saying that they may have taken their foot off the gas a bit.
Samuel didn't offer very much at all and Barr hasn't been the same player for the past month or so.
Thought Stoney, Muir and McManus did ok.
I like McCormack as a player but I just wish he'd dominate things more.
I think he's capable of being a much bigger player for us than he is just now.

We need that wee bit luck then I reckon we'll kick on.

Yes, QOS were the better side, but I thought we started to play a wee bit better when Gormley and Keenan came on and we could well have sneaked a point if luck had been on our side.
Still ten games to go. Hopefully things will pick up soon.

What a great QOS support today but when i went to the bar before the game i was told there was no beer on tap - just lager and cider. Was also told that a devilery of caledonian best was agreed by someone on the board to deliver after 4pm on friday - but the office closes at 4pm that day.Surely he must know the times!How much money did we lose? High street not to far for people to go when the club were advised they were arriving at 12:00. A couple of platter of sandwiches were given out which was a nice gesture but surely a bad bit of PR.

Couldnt make the game today but its great to read on the P+B website that your keeper is making some great saves to continally give the team a chance to stay in the game.
Ive watched numerous games this season and if it wasnt for him the score line would have been really embarressing !
I even watched the recent friendly against lynlithgow where we lost 3 nil, perhaps if he had played in that game the score line wouldnt have been so bad, who played in goals that night ?

Well Andy he looks like he needs to be more decisive if hes going come of his line or stay on it or even pick it up and commit to that.Its alright doing wonder saves but you should concentrate on getting the basics right

Something that was written earlier, too many fans on here have never played the game but are too quick to crititise !

. Brilliant back post corner that took the keeper completely out of the equation and gave Durnan the advantage over his marker. To suggest it was a goalkeeping error is ludicrous

Next Saturday is fucking MASSIVE. We need to stop this negative pish and get right behind the team. We are in a head to head relegation fight with Stranraer with ten games left and everyone needs to roll their sleeves up and get on with it. This includes the supporters as well as the players and management.

But true

Sadly true I agree.
I gave up 6 games ago and won't be back. 37 years of following that club is enough for me.
3rd division is where we belong and we have a board that are quite happy to fester in the bottom tier.
Sorry, not for me.

Yes Calum Antell had some fabulous saves, the ones from Clark & Young being the pick of the bunch but the damage was done by then!
As soon as Whitey was taken out by the long ball for the first goal I looked at the keeper's positioning & my first thought was that he had to get back on his line, he didn't & made it easy for Reilly to decide what to do. Maybe the lob was perfection but every goalkeeper is coached now to throw their hands at everything even if they think they are beaten as they might just get lucky, Calum's arms never left his side!
The third again I would dispute the fact that it was a great corner, jees the guy headed it in from a yard out! At the other end Bo Selecta would have just plucked that out of the air & set up a Queen's attack with his fantastic distribution.
We didn't lose because of goalkeeping mistakes, I genuinely think we made them angry by scoring then they upped their game (which they could have done at any time imo) went two in front & thought the game was over. They are streets ahead of not only us but every other team in the league but their defence looked dodgy in the last 10 minutes when Gromley & Jamieson came on.
Maybe if Willis' shot had gone in instead of hitting the bar it might have made a difference.
Not too despondent about the result genuinely didnt expect anything from this one but now we will see just who has the balls for the fight in the next 10 games

Barr,Samuel ,Willis,McBride all look like they don't want to be here. We should have done better when we scored at1-1 but same old same old. Barr should be dropped he walks round the park thinking he is the man but does he haw. He is another bobby linn ,when was the time he had a good game? Samuel is not fit and looks low on confidence and can't run. Willis another player who thinks he is too good for this league. McBride has been great at set pieces but that's all , he has a great left foot but doesn't do much with it. Queens were a lot better than us and as some says better than all the other teams but they were there for the taking yesterday. Billy brown will know who he wants for next year if he stays and out of the current team I would only keep 5. We need big changes next week players who have a hunger to do well .

Sounds a fair assessment, the keeper would be the only one to know if he has a chance of reaching a ball that is lobbed over his head. Siittng in the stand doesnt show you how high the ball is , what angle the ball is travelling, im sure if he thought he had a chance of reaching it he would have tried, apparently the ball sat up just right for a perfect lob.
Again crosses are always a bone of contention, keepers usually have a split second to make a decision and if they decide to stay put its usually because they think they wont reach it or theres too much traffic arround or that the 4 defenders in front of him will actually do their job to defend the cross. Too many times the keeper gets slated for letting in a goalwhen he is left to defend a ball that has passed through the 10 out field players first. The keepers position is the hardest position on the field always open to crititism.
Keepers are always going to make mistakes just the same as everyone else in the team so they should be judged on their overall game not on one or two imperfections. I watch a hell of alot of football and when you see top top keepers making mistakes and then they are still in the team the following week its about their overall performance. If you judged every out field player on how many mistakes they make you would need a squad of over 50 to keep replacing them every week, people need to get real.

East Fife had 2 very good keepers before Calum Anteell was brought in. Why are they not given a chance? Perhaps it is in Antells contract that he plays every week regardless with no competition from the East Fife keepers. Maybe that is why he gets some of the comments that he does. When I have seen him he is slow sometime on distribution when a quick ball could of got results.

Theres never a clause in any contract that states a player plays every week. It is upto the manager who he picks on the field based on who he thinks is the best at the time.He watches them in training and games and selects accordingly.

Andy, anyone that knows me knows I am reluctant to criticise goalkeepers (especially EF ones) having tried to play there myself all-be-it at a lower level but Calum's mistakes are too frequent at the moment and his overall display was not good yesterday. Yes his shot stopping was excellent but as well as the two goals I mentioned there were 4 occasions where he had the chance to come & take the pressure off defenders by claiming through balls & calming things down. His indecision caused panic in our defence.
I dont think that Robinson is the best keeper in this league but he gives off an air of confidence (bordering on arrogance!) and when he decides to go for a ball he takes everything & everyone with him. At least 4 times he played the keeper / sweeper role perfectly & took the decision making off his defence, thats what keepers should do!
Please don't for one minute think this is a personal attack its just my assessment.

Is it down to the lake I fear.....

I'm not questioning Antel's ability. He'll be a decent keeper in the future, but right now we need an experienced head between the sticks.

Hmmmm... who do we have that is an experienced, excellent goalkeeper? i wonder.


Colin Samuel is clearly not fit. He hasn't looked bothered in the last month. Then we have Liam Gourmley who every time he comes on looks sharp, quick and hungry.

There are some questionable decisions being made and its costing us.

Think Andy Mann is eiter a relative of Antell or his agent.Simple fact of the matter is that East Fife`s goalkeeper is sitting on the bench the victim of some dubious loan arrangement with Hibs,and East Fife`s goalkeeper is better than the young Hibs goalkeeper.Where our club benefits I fail to see!

We have to have a full squad of signed East Fife players in the future, NO MORE LOANEES. We need guys that are committed to the club and allowing players from SPL clubs to come here and take the piss should no longer be an option. If these guys were any good in the first place they should be fighting for their place at their own club, not ours. If they are not good enough to do that they should not be good enough for East Fife.

Remaining fixtures.

Arbroath (H)
Albion Rovers (A)
Stranraer (H)
Ayr (A)
Brechin (A)
Forfar (A)
Stenhousemuir (H)
Alloa (H)
QOS (A)
Brechin (H)

Arbroath (H) - 1 point
Albion Rovers(A)- 1 point
Stranraer (H)- 3 points
Ayr (A) - 0 points
Brechin (A)- 0 points
Forfar (A) - 0 points
Stenhousemuir (H) 1 point
Alloa (H) - 0 points
QOS (A) - 0 points
Brechin (H) 1 point


In all seriousness.. we are fucked.

If league reconstruction doesn't happen and we go down that will be unforgivable in my book. 4 huge games against Newco and we`re not at the party.
Shame on those responsible for allowing this club to plummet to such depths.

An absolute shambles.

So I'd want the team I've watched and supported for 45 years to lose just to get one over you? You're not that important in my life Jocky!

But why stop there? Not only do I want East Fife to lose on Saturday, I want them relegated and finish bottom of the entire Scottish league next season too. For good measure how about that I want them to go out of existence too? That would be the business because it would mean that I, SPF and others had been right all along about how useless we've been for 25 years.

My team would not exist but at least I'd have the comfort in my old age of having got one over you.

So what is this supposed to mean then??


Positive news - Stranraer lost by one more goal than us. We have improved our position today.

In yer face Jocky!

EAST FIFE.... its a hard habit to break

Unfortunately it is not too hard to break the habit. I used to be ardent but over the last couple of season the love and enjoyment have been eroded. I'd love to get my fife mojo back but currently find it too easy to find 'better' things to do on a weekend. Hope we can go on a run and get some punters back through the gates.

Jocky, great post. You're my Inspiration

So you're calling a moderator of this forum a liar? He is lying when he said you posted as Jocky in the third person from the same computer?

You are a liar.

Yep!

Jocky, refuse to get into a slanging match, agree with your post entirely.

Easy to find fault with any team or individual players. Just hope the heads don't go down.
Agree with BBs comments re performances of late (EFTV interview). He is the first to say when not happy with performance and effort.

Div no happy and commented the players were gutted after QOTS game. Who are BTW a full time outfit flying at top of league. Hope Arbroath get the backlash on Saturday.

Its fair to say that most of the people that applauded the team off the park after the game prob don't post on here. Effort could not be questioned on Saturday.

Only my opinion tho.

Thank you PENPAL. I think it may also be fair to say, that most of the people who post on here don't actually go to watch East Fife at all, therefore blissfully unaware that the team were applauded off the park on Saturday.

Did they deserve to get applauded off the park.Is football not all about results.Better a winning team than glorious losers.Should we not start up an u19 team so we can dripfeed some young talent into the first team or even give some of the regular subs a game.

You'll find that many of those criticising probably don't go to games any more. Most though admit that but are expounding upon why they don't go and are perfectly justified in using this forum as an outlet to have their say. I have wound down my attendance at games considerably over recent years due to a number of factors (some personal)but mainly because the football served up is poor, the club seems to have no direction or ambition (owning your own stadium and having a smaller debt than most do not count as success for a football club in my book) and there seems to be very little happening to alter these things.

Until there is some sign that the club is actually worth supporting then I am unlikely to be back. I truly hope that we manage to stay in this league but going to games out of blind loyalty for little or no return seems like a lousy way to spend a Saturday afternoon right now.

Yes if only our board were more like their counterparts at Stirling, Clyde, Ayr United, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Hamilton and Airdrie.


mmmmmm

Yes things could be better........but only a wee bit - bottom end of the 1st division is as high as we could ever hope for.......but keep in mind things could also be very much worse.

Try airing your grievance to a Clyde or Stirling fan and see how much sympathy you get.

Wasn't at the game so no doubt Jocky or his alter ego might have a go at me.

However, it's all fair and well raising your game agaist QOS when there is no pressure on us to win so why can't we have the same level of committment against the likes of Albion Rovers, Stranraer, Stenhousemuir and the likes? We are in free fall, what is it 1 win from 8? Unless league reconstruction saves us I really don't fancy our chances against a Queens Park or another Division 3 side.

I have only been to two games since the turn of the year and sadly I don't miss it, atleast when we were in the 3rd we had players who would give their all every game and not every now and again. If only some of our squad had the same work ethic as the likes of McDonald, Smart, Tweed, Russell and Donaldson we would be a lot better off.

Define under-achieving?

In the all time Scottish league table east fife are 23rd.

What reference point are you using to gauge where east fife "should" be? Where do you think we should be and why.

Yes we should be on a par with Cowdenbeath, Brechin and Dumbarton....... And taking a 10 year average we are. I don't see the evidence that smaller clubs are constantly out achieving us. Care to provide some?

The populations of Brechin and Cowdenbeath do not support a top twenty team. Are you saying that Brechin and Cowden are established 1st division teams? Really? I'll take some convincing on that. Even the most excitable of Cowden fans wouldn't class themselves as an established 1st division team given that the two occasions they've been there of late have been relegation battles.

Are raith fans enjoying life in the 1st division. I doubt it as they have expectations of come tithing for the title. Are Cowden fans enjoying it - probably if they're expectations were relegation.

I am not going to get dragged into the discussion(but probably will) in case my stalker returns but there has to be a sense of proportion. We are not doing well and that has been the story for some time but GOF's statistics mask the fact that, irrespective of what you think of Jocky's views,there ARE only around 10 posters on this thread who are following the "not coming back until we are winning/better ways to spend £13/ anyone who tries to stay positive is stupid" tack.
I will continue to support when we are poor and will be depressed on a Saturday night but will also continue to do whatever I can to improve things.

Sorry SPF, you are going to have to come up with the figures regarding admission prices I'm afraid, if you are using them as part of your argument in your so, SO sad post above!

No, I don't need to. It's fact. Other than Raith, and other teams like QoS, Clyde who've come down from a prolonged stay in the higher league, who has charged more than £13 to get into a second (or third) div game ?

You tell me, which of those teams in the 'lesser or similar Clubs - seasons spent in the First' post have charged more (or even the same) as us when in the same league as us.

I'll start you;

Brechin - charge less than us (and get less crowds)
Cowden - charge less than us (and get less crowds)
Alloa - charge less than us (and get less crowds)
Stranraer - charge less than us (and get less crowds)

Cannae mind whether Stirling/Dumbarton charged as much as us when in our league

On the plus side ,if East Fife did charge less to get in ,you wouldn't save as much money staying away!

You are a right saddo SPF! Lesser/similar clubs?? Get a grip mate!

SPF..... Of course raith won't rather be playing Forfar stenny etc. But are you saying raith fans are happy this season. Not the ones I know.

And east fife aren't an established 2nd division club? Who is then? Come on.


Your data looks correct......but to make your point it needs to be complete as well and unfortunatly it lacks the seasons spent in div2 and 3 and league positions for those seasons.

Have a look at how Arbroath, Cowden, Alloa, Stranraer, and Dumbarton fair over that time against East fife then tell me if we are underachieving compared to our peers.

I'd class Brechin as being in the same pool and yes they have done better than us. Well done them.

I don't class Stirling Clyde and QoS Ayr or Morton as our peers. They are full time and come from bigger more affluent populations.

Have fun researching the data.(wee tip....do it from 95 onwards.....makes things easier post league reconstruction)

And you need help!

Jocky and NTOC arrive with contributions that just prove the point I made earlier. Acceptance of continual failure. Why support East Fife if people don't believe it can be any better than this? But we're told there is nothing finer than sitting through this dross, and we should appreciate it.
NTOC thinks that there are only ten people complaining. What a joke. The crowd on Saturday was our record for the season, at 628. It was only that 'big' because Queens brought so many supporters with them. Our average attendance this season is as low as it has been since the Brown boycott. Apart from the boycott, our average home crowd must be close to a record low. That's the problem NTOC, supporters are no longer supporting. Look at how few people are in the stand, it's right in front of your eyes, man! They don't care any more, and they don't even want to come on here to find out what's happening. They're offski, away. Lost to EFFC. Sick of watching garbage, and following a club with no hope or ambition.

Let me reply for you, save you the trouble. "I'll still be there, every Saturday, following East Fife, come on the Fife, there's nothing I'd rather do on a Saturday afternoon than be shat on from a great height, drone drone drone, the real fans keep going whatever happens, I'll still be here, boring the tits off folk, that's what it's all about supporting a football club, you accept the good times and the bad times, you're letting the side down if you don't give the puppet chairman £13 a fortnight, it's not all about winning, we'd go bust if we won five games on the bounce you know, drone drone drone, it's always been like this, we're just from a wee place, I'll still be here backing the boys, we make a difference you know, we really do, we're the twelfth man we are, stop pretending you have dropped dead while I'm talking to you, no, I mean it, please get up and applaud another defeat, well done the mighty East Fife, the famous black-and-a-tiny-bit-of-gold, I don't mind getting royaly shafted most weeks in the name of EFFC, better to take it tight than go shopping you know, not like those stay-away bad boys, they are not real fans, they don't care like us, drone drone drone, that website is awful it should be shut down, who've we got next week, Forfar I hope coz I love the bridies, that's my favourite away day, I bring two back home for the wife its a rare treat, i wish every away game was at forfar, that's what makes it special about supporting East Fife, it's not about life and death, you see your pals and eat pies, wait a minute, where has everyone gone? Ach never mind, I was going to die anyway. Still, it was fun when it lasted. We had the time of our lives, so we did. East Fife till I die, I'm East Fife till I die ... what do you mean the club's died before me?"

Goodness me! And I thought SPF was delusional?

Anyone who thinks EF have not underachieved over 20-odd years, especially with the facts (and the fact that they are caught posting from the same computer and denying it) is certainly delusional.

Delusion n.
A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand.

Psychiatry A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness

LOL post of the season.

Top marks sir

Who is suggesting success is at hand, may I ask? Can't you see that it is you non-attendees at Bayview who are under the illusion that if you don't go to Bayview, somehow that will magically propel East Fife up the league, in which case of course, you will return to watch East Fife again, I presume?

Or could it be I am wrong and your idea of success, is to see the demise of East Fife? Mmmmm... I wonder?

Maybe I am wrong on both counts, so what exactly are you trying to achieve? It must be something, otherwise you wouldn't bother your arses posting on here, would you? So, c'mon lads, out with it??

can anyone pls honestly tell me what you all actually do on a saturday when staying away from football?
what is this " better things to do"?

i enjoy going to the football and yes i do enjoy it win, lose or draw.
i enjoyed standing in the wind and pissing rain just before christmas when we beat stenny 3-2, i enjoyed the game when we lost 0-1 to stanraer the week before, great effort just couldnt get the luck in front of goal or off the woodwork that night and probably most of all enjoyed the entertainment served up in the 2-2 draw against Brechin,great game and applauded by most who attended.
i've seen only 1 goalless draw all season and even that was a great game, so dont tell me that its a waste of £13
its not all about winning although it helps sometimes

When did all this Jocky is a director stuff start anyway? I seem to have missed that somewhere along the line. Genuinely curious.

People staying away aren't going to help East Fife get better, but it might make them feel a bit better. I've got a piece in the programme this week that mentions how surprised I was to see so many regular faces not at Bayview when I was last back. It's sad to see, but everyone has to evaluate what works for them.

What will help us get better is more investment into the club and better players. Where that will come from, heaven knows.

I do think we are an established second division side. These last few years of mid table finishes seems to suggest that, along with the odd flirtation of promotion and relegation playoffs.

If we go down this season though then I think it will be a long journey back and I do fear for the club.

The board should be seriously studying just what has made Cowdenbeath so successful, but even more so with Ross County. How did this fairly new League club overtake us so fast. What did they do right and what did we do wrong?

Whether people posting here are going to games or not, they (on the whole) have one thing in common and that is they genuinely care about the club. We might not all agree as to the best ways forward but this is our club.

Sadly that number is dwindling and there doesn't seem to be many signs that that will change any time soon, and everyone who cares about the club should be working together to try to change this.

Actually Mad Man, it is your post that is depressing! You are an eternal pessimist and who would want to be one of those? Very sad! Enjoy your Saturday afternoon this weekend, wherever that may be, (Starks Park perchance)??

SPF
Put us all out of our misery. If Jocky is, as you say a Director, name him.
There are 6 full directors and 3 associates to choose from.

JOCKY
Is SPF right or wrong?

In the meantime the team has a very important set up fixtures coming up which will determine whether we stay up or are relegated.
I suggest we all put our differences to 1 side and start supporting the team.

I realise that it is much much easier to support a winning team rather than a losing team in what for me personally this season has been the season from hell.No set of players should have to be managed by 4 Managers between July and November ie Gordon Durie,Gordon Chisholm,Brian McNaughton/Bob Malcolm , and Billy Brown.

I cannot remember the number of Managers the club has had since we moved to Bayview Stadium but to me, the club needs the stability of a longer term manager to progress.

Off the field , I do agree that the club would benefit from a change of direction and have heard that the Chairman will be retiring at the end of the season.
To me the present BOD have done a good job keeping the finances of the club under control and have obviously tried to encourage local school children to come along on match days.Additionally they always seem to have supported the Manager with any player acquisition/loan. To me they have failed to get the local business community on board. In essence , East Fife does not feel like a local club.
Ultimately it will be the People of Buckhaven ,Methil , and Leven who decide if there to be an East Fife in its present format.

As I said earlier, I suggest we put all our differences to 1 side and support the team for the next 10 fixtures.

Come on SPF, put us all out of our misery and tell us Jocky's real name.

There is a Youth Development team at u19 level and also the Modern Apprentice Scheme run by the guys (and girls) on the Youth side. Players are there and can be made available to play with the seniors.
At different times there has been some playing but now occasionly they are asked to join the squad if there are gaps. Quite a lot of the Youths play with Junior teams to get them ready for senior football. These young guys are doing well and are a credit to the all the work that goes into Youth Development. The reserve games are primarily for the Modern Apprentices so come and have a look next time they play at Bayview.

Is anyone else getting bored with all this?

Sorry Tam, but I think it is important that we know what the likes of SPF and Terracing Now are trying to achieve, or are they just whinging for whingings sake?
Their negativity surely isn't good for the club, so why are they doing it?

SPF, you were asked to name 'jocky' as you have called him a director many many times now, so name him !

Jocky are you Kaiser Soze???

What can fans do to help change things if there is an owner that doesn't even exist???

Let's not go naming names we can't prove that people are.

I'll just delete the posts, because barring Jocky admitting it, no-one can prove it one way or the other.

At least people in this thread all care about EF in their own ways. Now if we can only channel all that to get the club back to some glory days.

Its certainly a chore listening to Jocky and his many alter egos

some of these posts are laughable. some people think if you dare to say anything that goes against managers or players then you are less of a supporter than others what a load of pish. even the best teams get booed off the park. they have a word for people who never criticise and cheer or clap even when criticism is due its not supporter its cheerleader.
if you dont go to games you cant criticise. of course you can if youre a fifer youre always a fifer and it still hurts even if you dont go to games anymore.
i would love to be positive about this season but one win in 8 games and the prospect of the relegation playoffs doesnt fill me with positive thoughts.
i truly hope saturday is better and we can kick on from here but as i said in my first post the one thing i expect every week is effort and that is something that has to be there in every player and that just has not been the case recently.
i will be at bayview on saturday but dont blame anyone for saying they have had enough nor do i think i am more of a supporter than them

Supporter,
You have chosen to misinterpret what I wrote. My post pointed out that only 10 people were complaining on this thread. You have then decided to tell everyone how I will reply and you are wrong.
I know EF have done very little in the last 20 years. I know fans are leaving because of lack of success. I know the consortium who own the majority shareholding have no interest in our on-field success.I know we currently have huge problems both on and off the park.

I have chosen to continue to support EF and to do what I can to bring about change through the Trust.
You have chosen to bring about change by bleating on a website which has no influence over the club or its owners.
Apart from bleating, what positive steps have you taken to bring about change ? Protested outside the ground ? Chanted sack the board ? Written to the SFA about share ownership ? Set up a protest group to bring about change ?
If you feel that not attending and attacking fans who choose to continue attending is the best way of bringing about change then I am quite happy with the path I have chosen.

Supporter/SPF/Mad Man etc......

Why don't the 10 of you get yourselves on to the mound on Saturday and show everybody how much you care about East Fife? Wear masks if you don't want to be recognised, if you like. Nae cardboard cut outs allowed though, trying to make out there really are 10 off you when there actually might not be!!

We`ve not had a decent team to watch in donkeys years. Not since we walked the 3rd. This current crop are very poor.
Who is to blame for that? The board or the manager(s)?
The board are certainly guilty in appointing rookie managers in Crawford and Durie. Cheap/easy option maybe.
Robertson and now Brown are experienced guys in coaching.
Still begs the question...

where is it all going wrong?

In my opinion we are resigned to 3rd division football next season. I`ve seen nothing of late to suggest otherwise.
With the newco coming up, we will pass them on the way down.
Lot of income to simply throw away and unforgivable in my opinion.

And he's not going to post the name because I've asked him not to.

This is getting tiresome. Can the pair of you stop poking each other, stop insulting each other and gie it as rest.

The same thing is happening on the main Whitecaps forum just now, Same two guys falling out all the time and it's switching people off there.

That forum does have an ignore function mind you!

What's my name SPF? C'mon... out with it! I know you won't!


You are accusing ME of being insulting?? Are you for real, after all the crap you have been posting about me? I have my breaking point too mate and I am fast reaching it!


Back to the task in hand - What is my name SPF?

Harry Hill would know how to sort this out.

Sorry GoF, It is plainly obvious that he does not have a clue who I am and if I am who he says I am, then I give him permission to broadcast my name!

I am NOT Lawro. I have NEVER posted from Lawro's pc. I am not Sid Collumbine. I have never appeared on MotD. I have never had a relationship with an EF Director. I have nothing to say about self abuse but would like to be a moderator.

Quality

What I find most depressing about this thread is that it started off looking at how we can get out of this current mess we're in and have a better East Fife for ALL in the future, and it's ended up with just a fucking irritating name calling session.

Maybe there isn't that many people that care about the club these days right enough. Maybe's there's load and they don't come on here any more for exactly how threads like this develop.

SPF, I've known you for years. Jocky I may or may have known you for years. Both of you though, I'm asking you nicely to knock this on the head and ignore each other and stop calling each other out.

If it keeps going, for the sake of the forum I will ban both of your IPs.