Away From The Numbers
All good things come to an end. Or so they say. AFTN has been around since 1989, first as a fanzine and then making the jump to a website and forum in 2003. We've been through the many ups and down at East Fife in those 12 years but policing the forum has become a giant pain in the ass in recent years. As such, we made the decision not to renew it when it expired.
The forum is no more and will remain as a locked archive until it is eventually deleted by the host. We're looking in to try to save some of the content as an archive.
This is not the end of AFTN though. The site will continue and will be revamped and return in its full glory for the start of the 2016/17 season. Maybe even sooner. There will be a comment sections and possibly even a new, registered forum. Check our Twitter (@aftnwebsite) for all the latest info and we'll also post in on the EFFC memories Facebook page.
Until then, have a last browse here, thanks for all your support over the years, and 'Mon the Fife.
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happy enough with the new chairman and manager. all the best to them.
NTOC
Oor Wullie
Good one.
Showing your age pal.
Can't help but laugh at some of the guesses as to the takeover.
I can tell you that no one has guessed correctly and it will almost certainly be completed before the new season.
There will be a lot of changes within the club.
I can also tell you that the majority of the current employees will not be happy when they find out who is taking over.
But in the interest of the club, Players and Youth Development this is the best thing that could ever happen.
Mark my words!
One more thing, Listen to absolutely nothing that Sid Collumbine has to say, He talks through a hole hidden by his corduroys.
Take what the EFM says with a pinch of salt.
May 24th, 2013 - 2:27 PM
Hahaha
Can't help but laugh at some of the guesses as to the takeover.
I can tell you that no one has guessed correctly and it will almost certainly be completed before the new season.
There will be a lot of changes within the club.
I can also tell you that the majority of the current employees will not be happy when they find out who is taking over.
But in the interest of the club, Players and Youth Development this is the best thing that could ever happen.
Mark my words!
One more thing, Listen to absolutely nothing that Sid Collumbine has to say, He talks through a hole hidden by his corduroys.
Take what the EFM says with a pinch of salt.
I can tell you that no one has guessed correctly and it will almost certainly be completed before the new season.
There will be a lot of changes within the club.
I can also tell you that the majority of the current employees will not be happy when they find out who is taking over.
But in the interest of the club, Players and Youth Development this is the best thing that could ever happen.
Mark my words!
One more thing, Listen to absolutely nothing that Sid Collumbine has to say, He talks through a hole hidden by his corduroys.
Take what the EFM says with a pinch of salt.
You say "mark my words" but you offer no substance to what you are saying and post anonymously.
I think it is Scott Inglis of the East Fife Mail who should be answering the questions. It is him who gave the whole thing credence by reporting on it. So over to you Scott...are you going to back up the story or are you trying to pretend you are a reporter for a big tabloid paper and just making stuff up on the basis of tittle-tattle? You are a local paper man who should report facts and not stir up gossip, so please enlighten us further.
No No No Whatever
It is Scott's job to stir up gossip and rumour. Go for it mate!
If not, what's the point of being a journalist. No fun if you cannot wind folk up and more importantly sell your newspaper.
Ooooh! I am so excited.
Oh No!
Noisy crossbar
If Brian is successful in his takeover then he would do well to take heed of some of the ideas and points raised in the recent fans meeting at bayview.
Already successful
The end of most clubs financial years is some time in June - The current corrupt owner(s) would be idiotic to sell the club before the money from the SFL comes in.
This is what all the waiting is about now.
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Infrequent Flyer
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Keep in mind I was shot down on my original few posts... My definition of top flight is, Surprisingly TOP FLIGHT - SPL.
This is a realistic goal with the right people, backing, organization, academy etc.
I have heard a few ideas already and if stuck to this doesn't seem an unrealistic target.
I'm not saying we will be challenging for the title, Far from it, but we can get into the SPL.
Hahaha
Infrequent Flyer
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Keep in mind I was shot down on my original few posts... My definition of top flight is, Surprisingly TOP FLIGHT - SPL.
This is a realistic goal with the right people, backing, organization, academy etc.
I have heard a few ideas already and if stuck to this doesn't seem an unrealistic target.
I'm not saying we will be challenging for the title, Far from it, but we can get into the SPL.
Holy shit the magic mushrooms are out early this year.
Druid
Hahaha
Infrequent Flyer
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Keep in mind I was shot down on my original few posts... My definition of top flight is, Surprisingly TOP FLIGHT - SPL.
This is a realistic goal with the right people, backing, organization, academy etc.
I have heard a few ideas already and if stuck to this doesn't seem an unrealistic target.
I'm not saying we will be challenging for the title, Far from it, but we can get into the SPL.
Holy shit the magic mushrooms are out early this year.
Didn't take long to be shot down again... It's fans like this that hold the club back and scaremonger the investors.
Hahaha
Druid
Hahaha
Infrequent Flyer
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Keep in mind I was shot down on my original few posts... My definition of top flight is, Surprisingly TOP FLIGHT - SPL.
This is a realistic goal with the right people, backing, organization, academy etc.
I have heard a few ideas already and if stuck to this doesn't seem an unrealistic target.
I'm not saying we will be challenging for the title, Far from it, but we can get into the SPL.
Holy shit the magic mushrooms are out early this year.
Didn't take long to be shot down again... It's fans like this that hold the club back and scaremonger the investors.
I'm sure people appreciate your contributions Hahaha, but if I were mounting a takeover bid, I'd either be on here myself or have someone on here talking it up. I don't recall seeing you on here before so you'll forgive me for thinking that you may be the talker-upper. Nothing wrong with that. But I'll temper my faith in what you say on the basis that it may (or may not) be a bit PR-heavy.
Obviously the main thing is how it all works out for East Fife at the end of the day.
KotS
Hahaha
Druid
Hahaha
Infrequent Flyer
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Keep in mind I was shot down on my original few posts... My definition of top flight is, Surprisingly TOP FLIGHT - SPL.
This is a realistic goal with the right people, backing, organization, academy etc.
I have heard a few ideas already and if stuck to this doesn't seem an unrealistic target.
I'm not saying we will be challenging for the title, Far from it, but we can get into the SPL.
Holy shit the magic mushrooms are out early this year.
Didn't take long to be shot down again... It's fans like this that hold the club back and scaremonger the investors.
I'm sure people appreciate your contributions Hahaha, but if I were mounting a takeover bid, I'd either be on here myself or have someone on here talking it up. I don't recall seeing you on here before so you'll forgive me for thinking that you may be the talker-upper. Nothing wrong with that. But I'll temper my faith in what you say on the basis that it may (or may not) be a bit PR-heavy.
Obviously the main thing is how it all works out for East Fife at the end of the day.
I appreciate and understand why you would think that.
I can assure you I'm not the 'talker-upper' nor is this a PR stunt.
I didn't even want to bring in anyone's name let alone plans and ideas for the future.
I am however an East Fife fan and in order to move forward positively we need some positivity from the fans, I appreciate that may be hard for some fans given the recent rubbish we've been put through but every cloud has it's silver lining and I firmly believe this is ours.
I admit I may be a tad optimistic but I personally believe that with a little luck we can make it to the SPL.
Hahaha
KotS
Hahaha
Druid
Hahaha
Infrequent Flyer
Hahaha
Noisy crossbar
Hahaha
Fifer
A clue, BM. Missing both revenue and association
Correct, But we will have to agree to disagree, Not short of association and couldn't be further from lack of revenue.
Yeah I,be been looking at Brian's profile on linked in and company website. Looks like he's got some footballing connections through his work with clubs and the Bulgarian fa. His company also sponsored balingry last season so looks like he has some spare cash to put into football. Maybe wulllie gray would like a return - particularly with Dunfermline and rangers being the oposition next season. If wulllie does come back we need a counter balance to make sure spending is kept in check.
Wullie's time has been and gone, Yes his money kept us afloat for a short period of time until we were back on our feet but our expectations should exceed the Wullie era now
There is no reason we can't be playing top flight football in the next 6 or 7 years with the right people in control and the right person(s) in my opinion is Brian and his contacts
Wondering what your definition of Top Flight is?
Keep in mind I was shot down on my original few posts... My definition of top flight is, Surprisingly TOP FLIGHT - SPL.
This is a realistic goal with the right people, backing, organization, academy etc.
I have heard a few ideas already and if stuck to this doesn't seem an unrealistic target.
I'm not saying we will be challenging for the title, Far from it, but we can get into the SPL.
Holy shit the magic mushrooms are out early this year.
Didn't take long to be shot down again... It's fans like this that hold the club back and scaremonger the investors.
I'm sure people appreciate your contributions Hahaha, but if I were mounting a takeover bid, I'd either be on here myself or have someone on here talking it up. I don't recall seeing you on here before so you'll forgive me for thinking that you may be the talker-upper. Nothing wrong with that. But I'll temper my faith in what you say on the basis that it may (or may not) be a bit PR-heavy.
Obviously the main thing is how it all works out for East Fife at the end of the day.
I appreciate and understand why you would think that.
I can assure you I'm not the 'talker-upper' nor is this a PR stunt.
I didn't even want to bring in anyone's name let alone plans and ideas for the future.
I am however an East Fife fan and in order to move forward positively we need some positivity from the fans, I appreciate that may be hard for some fans given the recent rubbish we've been put through but every cloud has it's silver lining and I firmly believe this is ours.
I admit I may be a tad optimistic but I personally believe that with a little luck we can make it to the SPL.
Fair do's
oh no here we go
what a load of shit posted on this thread BM is not Brian,and the person with the buy up bid name is Bruce M
yes very ill informed I think u will find the BM in the post is actually.......... Borrusia Munchengladbach who r pumping £20million into our club n then using it as a feeder club !!!!!!
come on
Well there is obviously someone posting on here from the inside that knows exactly what is going on. So I believe the best thing you can do is get the 5/6 boys the fans want to keep and get them signed up Campbell,Durie,Johnston,Smith,Brown, The new owners have to take a democratic approach and look at "The squad" list that has been posted on here. We have to keep the players the club needs to succeed. Div is already away so the board must move fast or it is guaranteed 2 all theses boys will sign for new clubs. Get it sorted whoever is going to be in charge.
The boys know what's going on and will hold off for as long as possible before considering any move.
Brian McNeil, 200k shares to become the majority shareholder, watch this space
Fiferbaz
Whoever it is will need to get cracking on pronto as there's not that long between now and the start of next season.
and not a player signed up for next season? and looks like our first game will be in August in the leauge 2013/14, no fiendlies arranged and club waiting on this so called takeover to happen...fans like me and maybe others will feel desprate now that the club has players ahead of next season at the club
Not again
A little knowledge is dangerous. And a little knowledge is what some posters on here seem to have. There is some truth and an awful lot of speculation.I am sure an official announcement will be made soon and then the the truth will out.
But there's no need to speculate - we know exactly what's happening.
Brian McNeill is heading a consortium of Bulgarian Men with money being put in by Barry Manilow and Bette Midler. The whole thing is being underwritten by Birmingham Midshires and transport between Scotland and Bulgaria will be sponsored by British Midland. This will see us operate as a feeder team for Borussia Monchengladbach. The team will be managed by Bob Malcolm and play at a new ground called Bayview Megapark.
I know this cause I read some of it on here and heard the rest from the Bogey Man.
Should in the main be a great success although there might be one hell of a fight over the training top with BM on it.
MiniFifer
Brian McNeil, 200k shares to become the majority shareholder, watch this space
If true, I wonder if he is getting ownership of these shares or just the proxy voting rights of them. Also are any of these shares part of a new issue?
And once the share purchase has been done, will there be a few million left to bring the team and stadium up to SPL standard.
Noisy crossbar
MiniFifer
Brian McNeil, 200k shares to become the majority shareholder, watch this space
If true, I wonder if he is getting ownership of these shares or just the proxy voting rights of them. Also are any of these shares part of a new issue?
And once the share purchase has been done, will there be a few million left to bring the team and stadium up to SPL standard.
Now that a known member of AFTN has said the same, people are intrigued, I love it.
Hahaha
Just looking in
Re cup receipts - it's only 40% you get remember some admissions will be concessions, plus there is a vat element, eg £15 is 12.50 plus vat.
True.. I still say it would have been very close to £200,000
Hahahaha you are a wank. Stop talking shite son.
Fookie Nell
Hahaha
Just looking in
Re cup receipts - it's only 40% you get remember some admissions will be concessions, plus there is a vat element, eg £15 is 12.50 plus vat.
True.. I still say it would have been very close to £200,000
Hahahaha you are a wank. Stop talking shite son.
That's every comment I've made that I have been shot down on, I love it.
It worries me that I'm the only one curious as to where the money (despite the amount) has gone and with the takeover in the pipeline it's likely we will never see the money again.
Hahaha
Just looking in
Re cup receipts - it's only 40% you get remember some admissions will be concessions, plus there is a vat element, eg £15 is 12.50 plus vat.
True.. I still say it would have been very close to £200,000
In other words, you dinnae hiv a clue!
Hahaha
Fookie Nell
Hahaha
Just looking in
Re cup receipts - it's only 40% you get remember some admissions will be concessions, plus there is a vat element, eg £15 is 12.50 plus vat.
True.. I still say it would have been very close to £200,000
Hahahaha you are a wank. Stop talking shite son.
That's every comment I've made that I have been shot down on, I love it.
It worries me that I'm the only one curious as to where the money (despite the amount) has gone and with the takeover in the pipeline it's likely we will never see the money again.
Only one curious to where the money has gone?? Haven't you heard of Saint Pauli Fifer?
supporter
Tetra
There is no secrecy on who owns shares, all you need to do is pay a small sum to get the information online.
Do you honestly believe that the information available online provides the answer to this question? A series of names with a c/o address for a lawyer or an accountant or whoever it is? Come on, they are making a mug of you if you are prepared to accept that.
How do you know that? Explain and give evidence!
Noisy crossbar
I recall that there is something in the trust's constitution that it must respond to all rumours within 12 hours of the rumour surfacing.
Did we ever get the trust's position on the moon landings?
Did we ever get the trust's position on the moon landings?
Tetra
supporter
Tetra
There is no secrecy on who owns shares, all you need to do is pay a small sum to get the information online.
Do you honestly believe that the information available online provides the answer to this question? A series of names with a c/o address for a lawyer or an accountant or whoever it is? Come on, they are making a mug of you if you are prepared to accept that.
How do you know that? Explain and give evidence!
I know that because I know that, and if you looked a bit closer, you would know it too. I don't have to go into an explanation here. It's more a questions of: Why don't YOU know that?
supporter
Tetra
supporter
Tetra
There is no secrecy on who owns shares, all you need to do is pay a small sum to get the information online.
Do you honestly believe that the information available online provides the answer to this question? A series of names with a c/o address for a lawyer or an accountant or whoever it is? Come on, they are making a mug of you if you are prepared to accept that.
How do you know that? Explain and give evidence!
I know that because I know that, and if you looked a bit closer, you would know it too. I don't have to go into an explanation here. It's more a questions of: Why don't YOU know that?
He's got you there tetra.
WullieBroonIsGod
I'd heard it was a Lee Murray consortium too.
Bit worried if it is it's going to be a short term thing whilst we are in the same league as Sevco if this is the case.
But all just rumour at the moment, time will tell
Bit worried if it is it's going to be a short term thing whilst we are in the same league as Sevco if this is the case.
But all just rumour at the moment, time will tell
Is that the Rangers supporter Lee Murray with the pub in North St where the Rangers bus leaves fae,you couldnae make it up eh.
Alcozombie
WullieBroonIsGod
I'd heard it was a Lee Murray consortium too.
Bit worried if it is it's going to be a short term thing whilst we are in the same league as Sevco if this is the case.
But all just rumour at the moment, time will tell
Bit worried if it is it's going to be a short term thing whilst we are in the same league as Sevco if this is the case.
But all just rumour at the moment, time will tell
Is that the Rangers supporter Lee Murray with the pub in North St where the Rangers bus leaves fae,you couldnae make it up eh.
Think you'll find that its now under The Flood Inn group with Lee part owner with others such as Mr Eddie Melville.
Is Molly Malones a Rangers pub?
Alcopop
Alcozombie
WullieBroonIsGod
I'd heard it was a Lee Murray consortium too.
Bit worried if it is it's going to be a short term thing whilst we are in the same league as Sevco if this is the case.
But all just rumour at the moment, time will tell
Bit worried if it is it's going to be a short term thing whilst we are in the same league as Sevco if this is the case.
But all just rumour at the moment, time will tell
Is that the Rangers supporter Lee Murray with the pub in North St where the Rangers bus leaves fae,you couldnae make it up eh.
Think you'll find that its now under The Flood Inn group with Lee part owner with others such as Mr Eddie Melville.
Is Molly Malones a Rangers pub?
He is a life long Rangers supporter,FACT.
What does it matter about Molly Malones, McPhails is his #1 pub, where the Rangers bus leaves fae,FACT.
Alcopop
what does it matter who he supports? Wouldn't you like someone local and someone willing to invest or would you like him to stand aside so you can invest yourself? what is your point?
Of course somebody local and willing to invest would be great,just stating facts that i think should be known.
If he was a lifelong Raith fan im sure all E.F. fans would like to know that in advance and they would be o.k. with that,yes.
Alcopoop
Alcopop
what does it matter who he supports? Wouldn't you like someone local and someone willing to invest or would you like him to stand aside so you can invest yourself? what is your point?
Of course somebody local and willing to invest would be great,just stating facts that i think should be known.
If he was a lifelong Raith fan im sure all E.F. fans would like to know that in advance and they would be o.k. with that,yes.
I cant remember mass boycotts when Wullie Gray pumped his money in can you? or where you to busy watching the buses pull away in North St.
Why the mention of mass boycotts.?
And its, were too and bus.
hotshovel
Why the mention of mass boycotts.?
And its were, too and bus.
And its were, too and bus.
you don't need a . before a ? (boycotts.?)
O.K.
Noisy crossbar
supporter
Tetra
supporter
Tetra
There is no secrecy on who owns shares, all you need to do is pay a small sum to get the information online.
Do you honestly believe that the information available online provides the answer to this question? A series of names with a c/o address for a lawyer or an accountant or whoever it is? Come on, they are making a mug of you if you are prepared to accept that.
How do you know that? Explain and give evidence!
I know that because I know that, and if you looked a bit closer, you would know it too. I don't have to go into an explanation here. It's more a questions of: Why don't YOU know that?
He's got you there tetra.
I know that the names are against the shareholders. Maybe I missed that some are held under a lawyers/accountants/whoever name, but I did read that the major shareholders are clearly identified. FYI, some shareholders are deceased!
Please could you advise me of the names of the lawyers/accountants/whoever, so I can see for myself? Thank you in advance for supplying the information.
Tetra
Please could you advise me of the names of the lawyers/accountants/whoever, so I can see for myself? Thank you in advance for supplying the information.
Yes I could, but no I won't. If you are interested enough, you will find this information easily.
supporter
Tetra
Please could you advise me of the names of the lawyers/accountants/whoever, so I can see for myself? Thank you in advance for supplying the information.
Yes I could, but no I won't. If you are interested enough, you will find this information easily.
Ye're jist a blether mate! Another one who posts and suggests this and that, but never come up with any concrete facts. I know that you are basically lying pal, sorry.
Tetra
Ye're jist a blether mate! Another one who posts and suggests this and that, but never come up with any concrete facts. I know that you are basically lying pal, sorry.
I really don't care what you think, makes no difference to me or to the reality of the situation. I was just disappointed that an East Fife supporter is so gullible. The ownership of the club is the only issue that matters at East Fife. It is the key to every aspect of how the club has been run for the last 15 years, and to how it will be run in the future. It is very important that supporters are aware of who owns the club.
You must be new to this forum, because the ownership of the club has been explained here many times. Maybe you could try using the search facility. I can post the information you are looking for, but you really need to take responsibility for your own ignorance, and start asking a few questions rather than sitting back and waiting for information on a plate. I am not a helpdesk.
