I’m not one for shouting for the manager to be sacked after a few bad games. I never called for Brown, Robertson, Crawford or Baikie to go. But I do feel that it is time for Atchison to step aside. I really hoped his appointment would have been a success but I feel we’ve seen enough to conclude that results won’t come for him.

The squad that we have is capable of competing for promotion but unfortunately the manager is not. We have players with EPL, SPL and international experience and a manager with none. The wages of the experienced professionals in the squad are being wasted if we are not competing for the playoffs.This mix was always a gamble and it’s a gamble that is not going to payoff.

The time for change is now. At this point in the season we still have the chance to compete for the playoffs…..but every game with the wrong manager at the helm it makes it 3 points harder for the new manager.

The work off the pitch has been tremendous. 400+ season tickets……. but this risks being undone unless results improve. How many of those 400 are likely to renew if the season continues as it is?

Promotion is achievable this season. And in the playoffs we’d likely face Dumbarton, Alloa or cowden – all teams we can compete with. And the prize is huge – 2 more sold out games against Servco….another 2 against Hearts….2 against the rovers and big crowds from Dundee and Falkirk. Would be a shame to loose out on the extra revenue opportunities that that the new capacity bayview offers.

This is the first big test for the new board. It’s a tough decision, particularly given friendships are involved… but the club comes first action is required.

Good post. I was going to do a similar one the other night about whether the next 2 games define Willie's future. That's mainly because I am really worried we take 0/6, allowing the other teams to move away from us.

We are 9 games into the season out of 36, we are in touching distance off all of our main competitors and only 6 points off the playoffs at the right end of the table.

Yes the next two games will be tough and that position may have changed in 2 weeks, but as it stands it would be beyond ridiculous if Aitchison was shown the door! I've said it on here, p&b and twitter god knows how many times now this season, we will improve under the current management.

Why get rid of him and have to start from scratch again? Lets not forget we were in the same position last season and decided to bring in Brown half way through the season and that done us a lot of favours.

Like you said we do have a squad that compete with the better teams in this league and it's only a matter of time before we do. We're not far away from giving someone a hiding and when it comes we will turn the corner big time.

Just get behind him and the team and see what happens. Oh and for the record, I reckon we'll be 4 points better off in 2weeks time.

"Not far away from giving someone a hiding"

You're just as deluded as Willie!

We never look like scoring 1 never mind giving someone a hiding The only player that ever looks like scoring is Buchanan.

Sorry but that statement is laughable. I do agree that 9 games is a short period of time but in this instance it's time to go! The opening poster is 100% correct.

Only 9 games in, but also out of both cups that we've played in so far, both in the first round.

Andy -

I don't think it's the points thing that's worrying people. Well, it certainly hasn't been for me.

It's been the performances on the pitch. The games we've lost, we've been beaten comfortably. The two games we've actually won were scrapping it through (backs to the wall against ten man Arbroath, wasn't at the Airdrie game so can't comment). And we may have had chances in our draw with Stenny but they whacked our woodwork at least twice during that game.

The fact that Andy Miller thinks we will get 4 points from the next two games is evidence that he is clueless.

Get your head out of the clouds and face facts before it is too late! Aitchison isn't cut out for the job. Anyone can see that.

I would be over the moon with 1 point from the next two games,but sadly I don't think we will get even that.

Just out of curiosity, why have we to call you Andrew now?

Does it matter to you, Tommy?

I agree its time for change. the grounds keeper at bayview is not keeping that pitch up to scratch. No wonder results aren't going our way

Out of all 3 cups at the first round, almost bottom of the league a third of the season in, worst goal difference in the league, 13-0 against Rangers already, a pretty decent quality of squad for this level but a poor, poor manager who is proving to be worse than we ever could've imagined.

Looking forward to the Alex Ferguson was given time shite. He had beaten Real Madrid to win a European Cup before he joined Man Utd. Oor Wullie can drive a mean taxi though.

Over to the cheerleaders.

CHANGE IT BEFORE WE'RE IN THE USUAL RELEGATION FIGHT. FUCKING NEEDLESS.

Lee Murray tweets "really sorry we let you down". Well it's time to do something about it and get us a proper manager. We have the squad now we need someone who knows what to do with it. We don't want another fiasco like last season.

he has never or never will be a manager at this level,its hilarious week in week out in his post match interviews,he says i dont understand its its been going great at training,im afraid to say you dont get results at training sessions its what you do on the park against the opposistion,im afraid if he continues in this role we will end up in the mire that is the 2nd division.and i do believe hes worst than billy brown,

Course it's going good in training. They're playing against each other so have week opposition!

Hard to see how anyone can still ask for him to get any more time.

One good win but clearly doesn't have what it takes and should never have been given the job in the first place.

Willie it's like this mate. We got in your cab, it was a new motor clean and tidy, you picked up our pals on the way we said take us to the bright lights we want a great night out, you stuck on the tunes cranked up the volume and we belted off into the darkness. With us believing you when you said I have the very place, a place where dreams are made, Burds every where each one better than the next. So we blissfully sing chat and finish our beers in the back of your taxi. Then through the steamed up windows we see lights and movement, unaware of the time where could we be for the night out, George street, or Dundee places full of pubs, life and action on a Saturday night. The door swings open we're here boys I'll pick you up at 2 where are we you ask Partners Cowdenbeath fuckin shite he drives off into the distance tooting his horn have a great one boys see you later. What do we do, catch a bus, call yer pals dad, start the long walk to anywhere just get out the town as quick as possible. Now we know another taxi driver so let's call him. Lee get us a cab out of here ASP. That's where we are you have a shite and I mean totally shite driver ruining your reputation you've started so well in many ways but the guys no got a clue Lee he really has not. He says oh but we've been close, aye that's because we have some decent players but they are not being lead correctly. Come on mate sort it oot

I`m sorry, but today was a joke. Yes, we had the lions share of possession but yet gain in the final 3rd, we were clueless.

Today we were playing against a team that was only 1 point above us in the league and we treated them with far too much respect. In my opinion, we have better players than them, so why play so bloody negative?

We got lucky against Dunfermline and it looked like Aitchison tried the same tactics against Forfar......WHY?????

Out of the 3 cups at the first hurdle and 2nd bottom of the league with one of the worst goal scoring records in Britain. That for me say`s that the manager has to go and go NOW!

Hard to believe that lot beat us yet again today! We played fitba, they hoofed the baw up the park. Having said that, in the first ha;f, for all our possession, we didn't really threaten their goal. In the second half we did, but still couldn't score, until were 2-0 down.

I am assuming injuries were the reason, but Andrews was in goals, Mcbride was left back, Durie right back, Campbell in midfield. Quite a major change in the team selection and formation. I think we played well enough, but were toothless up front and inevitably we went behind, instead of being in front that our general play deserved. We need a big striker up front to play alongside Buchanan, but Cedric wasn't even on the bench??

I don't know what is going on, but why is our team forever being changed? How many players are being injured and how many are simply being left out, or are some players not available every week? As far as I am aware, there was no mention of players unavailable due to injury, so why all the changes? We need more strength up front, as we just are not scoring with our present set up.

I think we all know we got beat because of our play in the final third, but what's the odds on clueless willie blaming it on changes and decisions going against us ? I feel we need a manager who will fully utilise the players he has to choose from and not hiring someone just because you are friends with them, john mcglyn would be for me.

Gary Naysmith was injured, Cedric Tutu was at a funeral no idea why Paterson was out. We played some decent football and competed very well compared to the other 2 games against Forfar. Forfar are no mugs and hilson and swankie will trouble any team. They are solid at the back but we didn't test them with Buchanan treading a lone furrow up top. Game changer Andrews has to see red for that challenge right through the back with a forearm smash. Thom got a red in cup tie at Forfar for a challenge less than that. Then Andrews assists with first goal. I am not to despondent if you think back to same time last year we got pumped 5 1 at Elgin all we had out was loan players. I don't think we are far away and I am confident we will turn the corner in the next two games. Only criticism like the rest of fans is in a one of cup tie why not have a go.

Time for a new East Fife Twitter hashtag

#TaxiForAitchison

Everything he said was correct done by 2 set pieces we played the better football and big marv should have walked. Lets not get to down that was decent today they tried to kick us of the park. Think where we were last year at this time and it only got worse we are going in the right direction, next 2 games are big big games. If things still the same then I will be worried.

Look, I don't go to every game but I am a regular supporter.... I must admit from day 1 that the aitchison appointment worried me, out of all 3 cups and a very poor start to the league, I would suggest time for change. We have 20 odd games to save our season and back up all the good work the new board have done. One solution perhaps.. BringbackArchibald

It is a results driven game football, so Willie has got to accept that and hold his hands up and if results don't improve very soon, consider his position. I think he does have the team playing decent football, but he is not getting it quite right, as results are proving. We should have been out of sight today against that lot, we were far better than them, but we still lost (again).

If the board stick with Willie, then they need to give him an experienced assistant, (as well as Gary), who WILL point out the areas where improvement is needed and advise the changes needed with firmness. Someone with tactical nous, even if only for the short term, to get us out of this rut and putting us on the right track!

Kevin Drinkell tried to help him and see where that went??? No progress in the next 2 games and he has to go, without a doubt. Never mind this giving him a season nonsense. The club cannnot afford to risk keeping him on.

Forward thinking board, decent squad with plenty of experience at this level but one weak link that needs to be addressed, the Manager. Nice guy talks a good game and runs a good training session! but out of his depth at the sharp end. If this was one of Lee's pubs and the manager was wasn't up to doing the job and was costing him money I'm sure he would be dealt with very quickly and someone would be put in place before he lost his customers.
Wullie has had plenty of time to shape his team, a proper preseason, quality signings, full time players much more than previous managers yet nothing to show for it. Time to move on and the club to move forward.

So does the manager deserve any credit?

Today the best team lost...there's not much doubt about that.
Without going over the game, we all know...ref had a shocker (he made game changing mistakes, Marvin should have walked).

We're out of 3 cups. We're not scoring enough goals.

Defence and midfield have looked better lately, but we need to open up and have a go at teams.
Signed strikers we have should be good enough, but not all have been available to the manager.
Are we playing better football than last year? Yes
Are we still in contention? Yes, couple of wins will make a big difference in league place.

I'm still not convinced Aitchison should go, can see what he's trying to do, but result must start to improve now. I'll give him till Christmas before I start calling for his head.

I'm sure results will improve...Just my humble opinion tho!

It's a shame the way our season is heading but I think we give Willie until after Christmas. Out of the 3 cups at the first time of asking is very poor, however the first two cup games were our first games together as a competitive team so I think we have to give the lads the benefit of the doubt there.

The facts remain, however, that it's a results based business. Improving performances are great, but if we're not getting points on the board and going anywhere then that's not good enough. No use being the better team over 90 minutes and losing most weeks.

Arbroath and Stranraer are both games we should be taking points from and if we take 0/6 then I think Willie's position will be on a shoogly peg.

I'm somewhat in the middle on this one, some fans are calling for his head which I disagree with but when I see folk on twitter having a go at the fans for feeling that way it's ridiculous. When our results are so poor you simply CANNOT blame the fans for getting angry and frustrated.

We all care about East Fife just the same, and some fans are quite rightly worried about the results. Hopefully we can pick up at least 4/6 from the next two games to kickstart our season.

Anyone remember a while ago Aitchison said we were going to give a team a doing and score a load of goals?

Confused,, we seem to recognise it is not working. We seem to recognise that tactics, selection amdability to make decisions during games are questionable (pars game was luck no tactical master stroke) and due to the fact that wullie has no track record at any level so we have nothing really to measure him against or to Work out if he has a chance of turning it around. So i can't see any logical reason for continuing with him. The hardest thing for me to understand is who else did the club interview for the job? Said it before nice guy good impression given in interviews etc wish him all the best but please let us get on with keeping ourselves out of the crap we had to go through last year

Good post.

Never mind a case for change, how about a change real soon?
At this rate we`re going down faster than George Michael in a public bog.

Same feelings here ....was really impressed with willie to start wi but now its a strong feeling that this just aint going to work out !!!

I would love to see Davie Kirkwood back at bayview, the job he is doing at borra is superb and that man never ever let us down

I will reserve judgement until the next two vital games are over although I`m growing increasingly worried with the lack of progress made.
You can see that the manager is trying to get the team to play football but I feel he may be too stubborn to change his phylosophy and try and mix it up when needed.

Yes, our goalkeepers have made mistakes but maybe that is because we are allowing teams to have a go and therefore our goalkeepers are more active. Look at the opposition keeper, when can you say they have been overworked when they play us?

Tough game against Arbroath on Saturday and they have lost their last 3 and some of their fans are a bit disgruntled so why don`t we have a go at them and get the first goal?

Who the hell is Dougie Anderson????

I tried that when i searched Willie Aitchison after he was appointed manager and found nothing.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/dougie-anderson/aufeinenblick/trainer_25493.html

From a Google search for Dougie Anderson.... surprise, surprise!

Did he get the job after a rigorous application and interview process fending off stiff competition from a whole host of qualified candidates?

Does anybody in football these days? Did David Moyes? He was chosen before Ferguson quit and there were no other candidates interviewed. Do you think he should be sacked, bearing in mind he inherited a league winning team and didn't start from scratch?

The arrangement may well have been that Brian makes the footballing decisions.

Let's give the guy a chance, a couple of wins and were right back in the mix.

Its just a matter of time but it looks like we are going to go through the motions and throw away a few mire points before the smell of the coffee reaches the board room

Just read could be brian making footballing decisions if this is the case why have a manager just let the so
Called physio run the team oh i forgot he does and we all follow like lost sheep.

By the way Scott (Durie), no criticism of you, I was only using that incident to highlight that the manager cannot be blamed for it. I fully understand that everything doesn't go to plan and if it was that easy, then football wouldn't be worth watching. You have proven that you can score goals, so hope you are in the team this weekend again.

My God. What a right bunch of supporters you lot are! Dissecting people's performances like you were/are all experts! Some of you say the manager lacks experience? Who the fuck are you to ask that question? I suppose you all have coaching badges?

This club is starting a new era and the people involved are dedicated guys trying their level best to make progress and all you lot can do is critisize, players and the manager.

No one can say you don't follow East Fife .Fc home and away, no one can say you don't shout and push the team on the park, but my God you don't half haver some shite on here.

Not at all Columbo, knew what you meant.

With the right manager in place I suspect we could do ok.[/quote]
Yes you suspect but like everyone else you just don't know!

People are simply frustrated that all the undoubted progress off the field is not being matched by the same progress on it.

My fear is that the continuation of the poor results will end in the humiliation of relegation, which will kill all the progress and investment off the pitch stone dead. The thought of bottom tier football is just too bad to contemplate and would be the final straw for those of us that have had to put up with dross for far too long.

We could and should be doing much, much better. And I'm afraid it's the manager who has to take full responsibility for that.

East Fife, second bottom of the league, out of all cups at first go and a fan base that is yet again giving up.
Yeah, we have a board that seem to be working hard behind the scenes blah blah.
Fact is the team are still shite and unless things pick up very soon no-one will really give a fuck. Just another disaster of a season for Fifes worst team.
I`m of the opinion we have a half decent set up behind the scenes its just a pity same can't be said for whats on pitch as that's the driver in all of this.

Moaners are entitled to moan. We`re just as shite as last year and the year before that.

Atchison is not experienced nor qualified to bring success to this club. Seems pretty fucking obvious to most people but hey, carry on defending the dross on grass all you like. Bit like this time last year and look where we ended up.

Something seriously wrong in the boardroom if they can't see whats pretty fucking obvious to most people.

It's not about when we appoint a new manager, it's about who we appoint. Time after the time we get the wrong man (aka the cheap option).

With the piss poor quality of politicians we have today he'd do well. And we could do with a bit of straight talking.

And I bet his dick is bigger than yours Mr James...

In less than 4 weeks Gary Naysmith will be manager

Keegan, Moyes, Ferguson AND Atchison in the same thread as comparison?
Three legends and a taxi driver. You couldn't make it up.
Some people on here are naive as well as thick.

And at what level did you gain your knowledge of football management, may I ask?

well said fifey!!!!!!!!!!!

Davie Kirkwood would make a difference to the best squad of players I seen at bayview for the last 10 years, its upto the management who they stick with

but I tell you something he will improve that team no doubt about that and wont cost much either .... bring on davie kirkwood xx

Aww, you are a complete and utter bawbag.
Suburban James and Jocky all rolled into one and well found out

Bump.
Let's hear Jocky and the club killing cheerleaders. How long does this go on? I actually thought we'd win today. Decent squad, backs to the wall. We'll grind out a win every few weeks but not this week it seems. Nice guy with good sentiments but let's hire a winner. Any managerial cast offs we can get from the other Fife teams who know what they're doing?

Time to act.

Since this thread was started we've exited another cup competition and lost a further 8 points in the league.

The continuing trend is costing us precious points and is damaging the "revolution".

Willies apointment is not working - nor is it going to work

.Action is required. Now.

Shut it you slags,george poor me a scotch while i figure who done the fife blag cant believe some slags waltzed in dressed as footballers and took the wages undiscovered.