EFFC's annual return has been filed at Companies House, with information correct up to the 21st of December 2013.

The biggest shareholding is 69582 held by Loraine Johnston Twigg
The second biggest shareholding is 33166 held by Samantha Twigg
Mother and daughter hold 52% of the total issued shares

Brian McNeill owns zero shares
Lee Murray owns zero shares

Talk of a takeover last summer was misleading. Brian and Lee are being allowed to run the club at the moment, in the same way as Derrick Brown and Sid Collumbine were allowed to run the club without owning it but East Fife FC and all its assets is still owned by Loraine and her daughter age 16.

How is this going to affect the Crowdfunding?I certainly would not be happy to contribute if what is printed above is true.

The annual return covered the period april 12 to april 13.

If you had been at the EFFC AGM you would have heard Lee Murray say that the final bits & pieces of the takeover would be completed early this year. Not one shareholder raised any issues with this, its just red tape. Lee Murray & Brian McNeill are in total control of the club, end of!

The current management team is beyond reproach. Business is always fraught with difficulties that are concealed unless you are directly involved.
East Fife are on a better course now than I can ever remember.
However you are right about the fan funding. When the shares issue is sorted, I am confident that this will move forward.

The current management team has been a breath of fresh air but the name Twigg still associated with the club does it no favours and still raises the hackles of many supporters.

Feel I must reply to clear up your understanding of the deal between myself & Brian our company and Lorraine.

We have entered an agreement and have paid a substantial non returnable deposit to Lorraine due to certain details taking a lot longer that first thought we are almost at the final stage. Our deal which is private will stay that way.

Who ever looked over the shareholding must have missed my name out for some reason because I can assure you I have shares of my own on top of the ones that me & Brian will have. And I'm pretty sure without checking that Brian has the same.

I have said since the day I walked into the club that you can ask me anything but people like you try to spoil it for everybody.

I am trying to be as open as possible with all at the club.

Hope that helps answer anybody who has any doubts, if you want to get in touch with me direct to dispute what I'm saying email the club amend I will answer back I have nothing to hide! Unlike you!


Lee

Lee, thanks for clearing that but this guy was just stating a fact which your explanation cleared up. He maybe was a bit off but hey that's what happens. Sounds like maybe you know who he is and there is a hidden agenda accounting for the way you replied. Or maybe you're just getting fed up with the constant sniping. But then again being an EF supporter you should have realised what you were getting into in that respect.

Actually I have no idea who it is, but as I say I have nothing to hide!

Question is do the supporters want a chairman who speaks to the them or would you rather I stayed quiet? What I do not like is somebody questioning me but don't have the balls to say who they are or get in touch with me directly it's not as if I have been hiding, actually working my arse off trying to make EF the best it can be! If that's not what EF fans want just tell me!

Everybody that I have come into contact with so far fans, staff & fellow directors have been nothing but supportive but if there is a group that want rid at least have the guts to say it or at least say it to my face!

Hiding behind a false name is not the correct way I hope you agree


Lee

Nobody wants rid of you Lee in fact would say more scared that you walk away from US ..... dont let a few smart arse`s behind a keyboard put you off the rest of us. WE are behind you all the way 100%. Thanks for the hard work you guys are putting into club

Lee, I would ignore the bams on here and would say 99.9% of the fans are behind you and the present board. The communication between board and fans has been nothing short of superb and it's been like a breath of fresh air to us all. C'mon the Fife!

Just wanted to echo the words of support above.

How many other chairman come on supporters forums and answer questions? How many other chairmen reply to tweets and the like?

Lee Murray has been outstanding since he came on board and he should be backed 100%. Most honest guy you'll meet.

However it doesn't matter what you do, you will always get some critics - that's life.
If I won the lottery and invested millions of pounds into the club there would be still be one or two snipers. Its human nature. Jesus performed miracles and they still hung him!

The important thing for Lee to remember is that he has by far the majority of supporters behind him

The Chairperson has the balls to reply to your comments in an open manner and under his own name. You provide what was inaccurate information under some stupid made up name ( or your a par). If you haven't got the guts to post under your own name stop stirring shit. But no doubt we will have the freedom of speech bollocks winging its way across the ocean to defend you.

Lee I think you are doing a fantastic job and I've yet to meet a fellow East Fife supporter who disagrees. Keep up the good work, it's appreciated. Also the communication between you and us is a breath of fresh air, it's nice to know we have a chairman who cares about the supporters. R

Lee is doing a magnificent job as chairman of EFFC. I can't see any posts here which say that he isn't doing just that.

But I can see a lot of lashing out at bams, smart arses, snipers, critics, shit stirrers and spoilers because I've drawn attention to the fact that the Johnston-Twiggs still own the club. Lee and Brian have an agreement with Loraine that lets them run the club. They might even have an agreement that they can buy the Johnston & Twigg shares at some stage in the future. There is a danger here that all the good work Lee and Brian are doing will count for little if Loraine changes her mind, as she is entitled to do. That's not shit stirring, it is just being honest.

Still here eh Martin? Still hating the place and everything it stands for? Yet still reading the forum when it clearly annoys the hell out of you. Weird.

How did the original poster post inaccurate information when he merely posted info he obtained from Companies House?

Anyway, well done to Lee for stepping in and clearing the matter up.

Just want to echo the other comments in that having a Chairman that engages with the fans and answers questions by email, on twitter, on podcasts and on here is such a breath of fresh air.

It's the openness most fans have been crying out for for years.

Read the posts he later apologised. Glad i still annoy you because i have different values, basically if you can't say anything to someones face don't say it hiding behind a hedge

Which ever way you like, makes no difference. Anyone who has followed this debate will know that I apologised for making a mistake over two small shareholdings.
It is interesting to see that most of the reaction has seized upon this error, as if the shareholdings I missed were major and significant. Few appear to care enough to comment on the fact that Johnston and Twigg remain the legal owners of the majority shareholding at EFFC.

It was explained to us all at start of season that it could take this long, if by the next AGM it isn't sorted out there will be an explanation of sorts for the delay, im sure this will be passed onto the fans as always has been done by the new board. We all know they cunts still own the club as the new board has not announced any different yet, when that day comes raise a glass !!!


"in black and white" Im very doubtful of your motives here as per your first post. Lee`s share-holding tho small at the minute, was obvious to see on the list of shareholders, as it is last on the list of 218 is it no ?

who r u.

Surely if your going to post directors name with number of shares held you should have read the whole document and maybe even a double check, just to be aware the public information you share is actually true ??
Maybe lose the sun-style headline too
Next time eh ??

As for the info supplied aint nothing I didn't already know already thanks just much like the sun

I was unaware that the previous largest shareholders retain that title, and I think it is legitimate that the OP has highlighted this fact.
Lee Murray has offered an explanation of why that is still the case. At this stage, you have to take this at face value, and hopefully soon the deal will be concluded.
There used to be criteria that a shareholding of 2000 shares were required to become a director. Obviously this has changed.
As an aside, did Willie Gray ever own shares, and what happened to them?

Buckhaven based fish man & son. JDB's pals

I would say the new board have taken-over the running off the club have they not ?
Information on current shareholding, the board have NOT tried to hide once and would probarly go into more detail if you contacted them direct.

Mountains and molehills springs to mind. Lee Murray oozes integrity and good intention. As said previously by me and as intimated by Lee in an earlier post, business is never straightforward and when its an individual's money he is perfectly entitled to his privacy. Lee, we are all behind you. Please keep on course.

Always people trying to stir the shite on forums! What Lee Murray needs to remember is some people on here are not East Fife supporters and have never been to Bayview in their lives! As I said earlier I've yet to meet an East Fife supporter who isn't fully behind Lee and rest of board.

Thanks for the support guys really appreciated

What worries me a little on this subject is that it seems to me that posts like this seem very investigative! If I'm right and it is journos, I wish they would just have the guts to pick up the phone and ask me to my face what the deal is and I would explain it.

I maybe wrong but these questions don't seem to be from a normal fan.

Be a man journo and call me!

#monthefife

I got a copy of the report too. It costs a pound from the Companies House website but I got it free at work. Anyone can buy it. It lists all shareholders and how many shares they have. It is not much of an investigation but now I am a super sleuth journalist for only a quid



The source could be an accountant or a lawyer who knows the club or maybe someone who has been involved in the deal.

Perhaps the OP has done East Fife FC,Lee Murray & the fans a favour? By hi- liteing the delays / potential damage it may hurry the sale of the shares from the Twiggs to the new board and allow them to bring in / spend additional funds.