Bottom league,Chairman resigns,3 league defeats in a row and a Mickey Mouse takeover.
Utter shambles.

Fully expect Naysmith to get punted or walk fairly soon to add to the circus. He's no manager material that's for sure.

I've backed manager from day one but no excuses left for him noo. Pointless after 3 games in 4th division says it all. We're in crisis right enough. Watch you don't moan about things though as you might upset people who will then question you're support. Depressing times.

I told you fat dough this would happen fans shouting for the managers head.and you had the hard neck to call me a fudd whose the fudd now.

where's the fun shouting for the managers head fudd.

Gary`s record since taking over is absolutely horrific! Consistently fail to trouble the opposition keeper week in week out. Continue to get out fought by teams who want it more than us. Tactics at times and substitutions are very questionable.
The Manager`s enthusiasm isn`t in question but his ability as a Manager now is and his record since taking over backs that up.

Given the situation off the park, we really needed a boost on the park to raise the spirits but unfortunately we are rock bottom and deserve to be.
3 games in and already next week is massive.

We will not need to worry about Gary come Monday

Gary would need to resign, as I cant see there being enough money in the pot to pay him up to the end of the season. In our first 3 league games I bet we haven't had 10 shots on target. I was optimistic after the way we played against Forfar, but it has all went down hill. Even Albion Rovers fans saying we were brutal. You would have thought after a hard fought win in mid week, we would have taken a bit of confidence in to the next game. I have said it before and ill say it again I am really at a loss as to how low we have got. There is Arbroath with a load of x east fife players sitting top of the pile.

Naysmith will resign.
Even he can see he can't cut it as a manager.
Fuck sake, we are bottom of the bottom tier. How much worse could it possibly get?

I think that May be my last away game for a while the players don't make an effort so why should the fans.

Lets hope that clown is gone. Awful football, awful tactics.

He has been really poor from day one. A lot of us gave him the benefit of the doubt but he has now got his own team. I really fear for our future and think we need a huge lift ( ie Steve Archibald) or similar. Where do we go from here? Only upwards I hope but not so sure!!!

PingPong todays performance was the worst i can recall for many a season... it cant get any worse thats how bad it was... surely it cant but i fear it will!

Manager has not only been what can be described as poor let's face it he took us down.
I have made mention of this in the past and people have tried to shoot me down in flames .
I said there would be humble pie for the folk who said this would not be the case that he would have to go .

Thing is when he does leave / resign he has left no legacy with no youths 17 onwards coming through no reserves .
Nothing for new manager to work with Lee gave him a chance but to his and the boards detriment wrong decision .Good player but never been at that lower level so can't comprehend what's required

Worst thing of all board of old guys no vision no idea of the game
As for fan buy out won't happen good intentions of die hards trying to find a solution but funds won't be forthcoming .

New manager ideas get some experience someone who had taken teams at the bottom and worked way up
Missed a trick with Colin Cameron / jimmy Nicholl
Let's go for Danny Lennon that's my punt bit early to be suggesting it is it look at the league table who wants that ?

Worst thing is knobs like you. The team played well against Forfar which was agreed by most if not all. They were reputed to have played well in the games the narrowly lost away against Stranraer & Elgin. The Berwick game was a game of two halves, which again we narrowly lost.

Okay, it does not look good, but you are saying he has his own team now. How long do you think it takes to 'gel' a team? How many new managers have we wanted to bin after a handful of games? Look at Steve Crawford's reign. Nobody can deny that he didn't have the team playing decent football but he was forced out by your type who have no patience whatsoever.

The point I am making is that we have not given any manager any time of note to do anything and hound them out too soon. Do you think Ronnie Deila will be punted after the Euro humiliation from Warsaw and yesterdays result against Inverness? What about Strachan's early days at Celtic? Willie Ormond didn't have the best of starts with Scotland, but ended up setting a high standard with the team he had time to mould.

Time to you is measured in milli-seconds unfortunately. are you going tyo stump up the money for the likes of Danny Lennon?

Here's a wee snippet from Wikipedia about Jimmy Nicoll -

Prior to the 2010/11-season Jimmy Nicholl was appointed new manager. They were relegated from the First Division to the Second Division on Saturday 14 May 2011 after losing their relegation/promotion play-off semi-final tie 4–2 on aggregate to Brechin City with the first leg at Glebe Park ending 2–2 and the second leg at Central Park ending 2–0 to Brechin City. It was a massive blow to the club especially after being 2–0 up at half time in the first leg in Brechin.

What do you say to that?

Utter bollox you talk Ringo.
The point is this club keep appointing rookies and get nowhere.
You would think they would learn eh especially after Crawford but oh no the cheap rookie option just keeps coming.
We've not had a decent team since we last came up 6 years ago and even then we were found out.
This club is on its death bed both on and off the park and people are now walking away.
We've found our rightful place in the bottom pile and that is where we shall stay.
Very sad all this bullshit from Murray and co and pure fantasy.
Trust takeover will never happen and even if it did we,ll still remain bottom tier.
East Fife are pretty much finished.

Been fun at times but most folk are no longer interested in a club that continues to go from one embarrassment to another. The board aint interested. They are just old retired dreamers and keeps them occupied. The owners aint interested because the land is all that concerns them.

To the 300 that are left we admire you and good luck for the future.

I agree Ringo although performance's by team havent been good enough with silly mistakes costing us, the team needs time to gel, all brand new teams do. We will turn the corner & things will be good again, Gary needs time with his new team. East Fife will always be around, support the team & management & good times will return!!!!!!!!!!

i did not think we could be as bad as last season,but in reality were worse.

The squad looks to be lacking 2-3 players. Perhaps with Murray's departure and the financial situation, Gary was not able to make the number or quality of signings he wanted to.

We can debate good and bad management but unless the budget is there to bring good players in, we're going to be poor regardless of the manager.

I'm pretty sure our budget was no different to other clubs in the League. None of the teams are exactly coining it in. It's how you manage that budget and bring in the best players available on the best deal for the club. Gary allegedly went for a small quality squad rather than a large squad of lesser quality. Are some of the players as good as he thought ! Some have still to prove it. The Club were offered various players during the close season but turned them down. One of them has already scored 5/6 in the League above. Yes the budget dictates the squad you can put together but the Manager has to make the right choices of what is available. This all comes down to the Managers opinion and the system he wants to play. Like every Manger, Gary has to carry the can and his future in management will be determined by the choices he has made

The truth is we can't give the manager loads of time to get it right. You do know what happens to the team that finishes bottom of this league this season Ringo don't you? Alot of you will say no way will we finish bottom,but the truth is,another defeat next Saturday against East Stirling, and I will be VERY concerned. Our once proud club is no more proud!

Cowdenbeath,they continue to punch well above their weight due to good managerial appointments and very good coaches.
East Fife, continuously guilty of appointing inexperienced rookie managers and getting nowhere fast.
A board full of retired old men who are quite happy to plod along.

Got to agree the board have no vision. All you have is retired old guys who are like Jack and Victor from Still Game

Ringo do you seriously expect fans not to criticize and moan about the current situation on and off the park? What do you want us to do? Come on here and sing the teams praises when playing so poor? We have put up with being shit for years and supporters are rightly getting pissed off with it. Maybe it's supporters like yourself who except being shit is holding us back. The club is a shambles and you have a go at the moaners! Who the fuck are you to have a go at people for moaning anyway?

Ringo, you never got over the fact that you were only in the band by default, did you? Stabbed Pete in the back and they still had to get a session musician to stand in for you on the first two singles. You were pish at singing too. You didn't even get the bloody hint when Paul wrote the lyrics to your song - With a Little Help From My Friends.
Now you are taking out your inadequacies on users of this forum. Still taking the LSD, obviously.
Stick to growing your beard and thinking you are funny. It's what you do best.

As I said, thinking you are funny

Which one of the board is Ringo?

Ohh ..... no idea. Someone you could bank on?

Sad people. When you lose an argument, you then try to discredit those who have picked all the holes in your argument. If I was a director, I wouldn't be giving a shit about your ramblings.

Ringo - why am I an idiot for suggesting that there is a possibility of administration?

If the findings from Due Diligence are shared on Saturday we'll see how real the threat of administration is.

We'll see how much of the 100K from the Rangers game remains. Because if things are all balanced as you suggest then that will all still be sitting there untouched in the Clydesadale bank right?

I asked "Rab" why he felt all was fine on the financial front but he declined to answer. Would you care to answer instead?

Probably the season we got promoted to the 1st.

In todays courier

Rankine denies claims he is influencing East Fife

By Craig Smith, 25 August 2014 12.18pm.


Under-fire Livingston shareholder Neil Rankine has insisted he is not pulling any strings at East Fife, despite facing an SFA investigation into claims he holds interests in the Methil club.


Fans concerned at the Bayview club’s direction of travel have claimed Rankine somehow holds sway at East Fife through named majority shareholders Lorraine Johnston and Samantha Twigg.

The situation has seen Livingston, where Rankine is a co-owner, hit with a notice of complaint by the Scottish FA for failing to disclose Rankine’s interest in both East Fife and Dumbarton, and facing a disciplinary hearing on September 10 for five alleged breaches of SFA ownership rules.

But, speaking to Courier Sport ahead of the hearing, the former Dumbarton chairman denied the alleged link to East Fife.

He said the only advice he had given the Methil club was a recommendation to now ex-chairman Lee Murray about a managerial appointment.

“There is no one in Methil whose strings I have pulled or even attempted to pull,” he said.

“I gave Lee Murray one piece of advice: hire Gary Bollan, who was unfairly sacked at Livi. But he chose a taxi driver instead. End of advice.

“I don’t even pull any ‘team’ strings at Livi, as seen with them firing Bollan unfairly when they should have waited for compensation as he would have moved on to bigger clubs.

“I help as an unpaid consultant on stadium and strategy matters at Livingston because I have 30 years’ experience and many football club officials keep in touch with me for advice.”

He added: “In my early Dumbarton days, after having put substantial sponsorship money into Falkirk FC and other local teams, I got my football education from Jack Steedman and Bill Barr. Jack taught me how to run a football club as a business and Bill Barr how not to.

“Dumbarton were £500,000 in the red and had an unsafe stadium — when I sold it, it had a new stadium, no debt and well over £100,000 in the bank.”

Mr Rankine claimed former East Fife chairman Bruce Black needed “substantial funds” to save the club from folding in the early 2000s, so he “encouraged” the Johnston Twigg family to invest.

He claimed the family had been expecting “realistic” offers to sell for the last seven years, and said a £600,000 buyout deal — to be paid over 12 years — had been agreed last summer with a consortium led by former club physio Brian McNeill.

He said that “seems to have been scuppered”, adding his solicitors have advised him to “not assist or advise in any capacity” after the pending SFA complaint was lodged.

But he said he “never had or will have any shares or loans” relating to East Fife, and hopes to draw a line under the continued speculation.

“I have never married and have no family relationship with the Johnstons or Twiggs — indeed I am engaged to the second largest shareholder at Livingston FC,” he said.

“I have had a past personal relationship which is over, and indeed also sold Mr Johnston Sr some seaside holiday property which he can’t now give away after dealing with their family for many years in the antiques trade.”

The SFA allege Livingston failed “to act towards the Scottish FA with the utmost good faith by not disclosing to the Scottish FA that Neil Rankine, shareholder of Livingston 5 Ltd, the parent company of Livingston FC, also holds interests in East Fife FC and Dumbarton FC”.

The governing body also say the club provided “false, misleading and/or inaccurate information in respect of Neil Rankine’s eligibility as a fit and proper person” in 2013 and that Livingston had failed to “specify Neil Rankine” on the club’s “official return”.

By continuing to “hold interests in East Fife and Dumbarton in addition to his shareholding in Livingston”, the SFA also say the East Lothian club “holds power to influence the management or administration of those two aforementioned other clubs”.

The final alleged rule breach charges Livingston with “not acting in the best interests of Association Football” by not disclosing Mr Rankine’s alleged interests in East Fife and Dumbarton.

I was pissing myself laughing at that line too.I also wonder where we might be if Gary Bollan hadn`t been overlooked AGAIN after the taxi driver went halfway through the season.

He's chosen his words very carefully, thus appearing even MORE guilty of being our silent owner.

Kipper verdict - Ringo

Thank you for the data protection Tam. Can you now actually be trusted not to abuse your privileged position as a moderator, as I am very concerned now about your integrity and trustworthiness.

Could you give me a breakdown of all other posters using the same IP address on AFTN Tam? Or do you only post about the ones you don't agree with?

Maybe you don't realise this, but I do work for a very large organisation.

I take it you could probably also put to rest that the IP address is not connected to East Fife in any possible way? Or do you want others to believe the tripe about being a director, seeing as you are taking sides? Is auld fifer your mate or indeed, is he you Tam?

GoF, is this really how you want your moderators to behave? Because Tam obviously disagrees with me by the looks of things, or probably is mates with those people posting a lot of negativity about East Fife (or could be posting himself under a different name), who they all profess to support and love, he can use the position of trust that you placed him in, to post what he just did?

You might try and block the particular IP address, but it won't just be me getting blocked! Knowing GoF, I trust that won't happen and that at least he appreciates that everybody has a right to defend the club, as well as condemn them.

I know you (GoF) have made comments about some of the posts on here in the past, but not because of a disagreement about the club.

Tam has not abused any powers of moderating. I'm certain that GoF would agree. Such a high number of names on one IP is most unusual.

Let's put something into perspective, he's not broken the official secrets act here.

Kipper verdict - Ringo has 47 split personalities and spits the dummy.

Hahaha what is even going on.

I'm taking no sides here however Ringo what company is that big that there are 47 East Fife fans that use this forum...

Why does it bother you that someone looked and noticed 47 different names from 1 IP address, pretty unusual no?

Why are you taking it as a personal attack when we can blatantly see that your throwing out the personal attacks.

The forum needs to be moderated and people can post under different names to cause hassle and justify things being said.

There would be a problem if "tam" posted what aliases you were supposedly using and have what your IP address is...

There is an undermining issue here that is clear to see. Don't have a clue what it is but there is something going on with yourself and others on this site.

The crisis will be if we can't compete with Shire, I have been unfortunate enough to watch them twice this season, Fife twice also although bad Shire are shocking slower than slow at the back, strikers should run riot. All teams have done is press they panic and apart from Elgin give away the goals. Also shire don't score many, the manager has registered as a player mind you it will be a long way round him, reads a game well tho.
Beat by shire and it a crisis even this early in season 6 pointer, for both sides.

Haha I do?

Give me examples. I pretty much only comment on issues I know about on here, means I don't end up with egg on my face when I'm wrong. You can look up my posts if you wish.

I however have noticed you seem to have an agenda that pretty much every other fan doesn't agree with.

Saying there is no problem with the strip...
I am currently on my second holiday of the summer. I still don't have my football teams shirt to wear proudly. We don't have an away top, surely the SFA will now look into that and punish us.

There are very big problems at the club and you are failing to acknowledge them...

Feel free to reply

Crikey, i have a stalker.

Kipper verdict - the captain has 47 stalkers

It's been a while since we had a meltdown on this forum.



I think the appropriate "Pie and Bovril" term would be "seething"...

Ringo

Spoke with Tam and he mentioned what he did as you were accusing everyone of posting under different names that didn't agree with you. He was wanting to point out that you may also post under different names.

I have done the same thing myself and have called people out on the forum for it, only when they are making out they don't.

Many of us do. Done it myself to make funny points.

Revealing what the other IP names were would have crossed that line though, and he didn't do that. I've only done that when it's really abusive or stirring fans of other teams. They don't matter!

No regular poster knows your identity and I haven't even bothered looking myself as I don't really care.

But yes, everyone is entitled to their opinions and even if I don't agree with them (which I don't with most of yours), I feel people have the right to express it.

I do with people would accept it and argue it in a sensible manner but that doesn't really seem to be life these days. Usually reverts to name calling and abuse, which people seem to be guilty off on both sides here.

As an aside, not supporting the Trust's buyout because Kerriann posted a comment is frankly baffling to me.

This should be nothing to do with individuals or personalities at this point, as the club is well and truly in the mire.

Zak, you're sound mate.
Ringo's just a lost confused soul with 47 other forum names.

Kipper verdict- Ringo is sad and lonely and watches toooo much internet porn.

For the record, I hold no position in the Trust other than being a member. With regards to you saying you will not support the fans' buy-out because of MY comment regarding a post on AFTN - I have no words.

Over and out.

So up until a week or so ago, I can't remember any poster called 'Ringo' on here. Fortunately for him though, he has found a job where it just so happens another 46 East Fife supporters work and all use AFTN. Lunch time must be fun there.

I actually feel sorry for Ringo. What a sad pathetic individual. I hope you and you're 46 friends are happy now you have been rumbled.

Kipper verdict - Ringo has no friends apart from the 46 in his tiny mind.


very very sad.