Away From The Numbers
All good things come to an end. Or so they say. AFTN has been around since 1989, first as a fanzine and then making the jump to a website and forum in 2003. We've been through the many ups and down at East Fife in those 12 years but policing the forum has become a giant pain in the ass in recent years. As such, we made the decision not to renew it when it expired.
The forum is no more and will remain as a locked archive until it is eventually deleted by the host. We're looking in to try to save some of the content as an archive.
This is not the end of AFTN though. The site will continue and will be revamped and return in its full glory for the start of the 2016/17 season. Maybe even sooner. There will be a comment sections and possibly even a new, registered forum. Check our Twitter (@aftnwebsite) for all the latest info and we'll also post in on the EFFC memories Facebook page.
Until then, have a last browse here, thanks for all your support over the years, and 'Mon the Fife.
GoF
Anyone else disappointed how Lee Murray has just distanced himself from the club now? Would have had more respect for him if he still came to the games and sat with the fans?
No wonder some folk think he was just on an ego trip
No wonder some folk think he was just on an ego trip
Somebody remind us just exactly what he did for the club.
No wonder some folk think he was just on an ego trip
Somebody remind us just exactly what he did for the club.
I don`t know Lee Murray or anyone on the current or past boards. I also do not know the reasons behind Lee leaving apart from what was in his statement.
However no one could doubt that the man was committed to the club and devoted many hours of his own time to try and move the club forward.
Yes mistakes were made but Lee was the first to admit, In sessions with the fans etc,that he had made mistakes and would learn from them.
On that basis I think it is unfair to ask what he has done , unless you have also put hundreds of hours in (unpaid) to help the club.
One of my concerns with a fans takeover is the stick their nominees are going to get for grafting hard (possibly making mistakes also)and devoting their time to take the club forward - if that the scenario we will pretty soon run out of volunteers to help as they will be put off by the stick from our so called fans.
Finally, maybe Lee Murray is staying away as he doesn't want to appear as if he is trying to cause trouble for either the current board or the Trusts attempts to gain control of the club.
He would be his car there as that is where Flood Inns offices are
I don't doubt Lee's commitment as he was always down at the club whenever I dropped in.
However, I would question his and his fellow board members financial stewardship of the club during his tenure.
I was of the understanding that prior to Lee and his team arriving East Fife were in a reasonably healthy financial position and had very little, if no debt to speak of. Please correct me if I am wrong here btw. Now we hear figures of £150K, possibly more, in debt and the club is staring into the abyss.
Lee if you were still in charge how did you propose to deal with this? How have we arrived in this position?
I appreciate Lee's openess and willingness to come onto the forum but at the moment I cannot get my head around what appears to have happened at our club and would appreciate clarification.
If indeed Lee felt he was in it for the long haul then why is he not pooling resources with the supporters take over bid?
Lee I have to say I did believe in you and sat agog at your first takeover meeting with the fans. I bought it hook, line and sinker and believed we were on the up. Having seen it unravel I now feel like an idiot.
The biggest frustration now is that yes we have a team that could win the league but administration might get us first
I seem to remember the board getting slagged off before Lee arrived at the club. Now I am reading above that the old board had the club on a sound financial footing, however Collumbine was slagged off just the same as Lee is now. It is the same with the various managers we have had over the "social media" years!
The truth is the usual people who regularly whinge on here, will never be satisfied with any board, or any manager, because they just like to criticise and whinge. Sad bastards! Unfortunately, they will not go away!
However, I would question his and his fellow board members financial stewardship of the club during his tenure.
I was of the understanding that prior to Lee and his team arriving East Fife were in a reasonably healthy financial position and had very little, if no debt to speak of. Please correct me if I am wrong here btw. Now we hear figures of £150K, possibly more, in debt and the club is staring into the abyss.
Lee if you were still in charge how did you propose to deal with this? How have we arrived in this position?
I appreciate Lee's openess and willingness to come onto the forum but at the moment I cannot get my head around what appears to have happened at our club and would appreciate clarification.
If indeed Lee felt he was in it for the long haul then why is he not pooling resources with the supporters take over bid?
Lee I have to say I did believe in you and sat agog at your first takeover meeting with the fans. I bought it hook, line and sinker and believed we were on the up. Having seen it unravel I now feel like an idiot.
The biggest frustration now is that yes we have a team that could win the league but administration might get us first
Interested? as I said in my post "Please correct me if I am wrong here btw". What was the financial position of the club prior to LM getting involved?
I am not a whinger, sad bastard etc. just a honest fan of 40 years or so who feels he has been bowled a googley whilst being sold a dream.
Albert, you said you were led to believe that the club were in a healthy financial position before Lee took over. You seem to suggest in your first post, that you believe the club is in a poor financial position now, because you are asking Lee how he would deal with it. Deal with what? You don't know if the club is in a dire financial position or not, so why are you asking Lee a hypothetical question?
As I said, only an excuse to have a go at directors, or managers. Are you just an honest fan? You say you now feel like an idiot, why? What did you lose yourself? A personal financial investment? Why should you feel like an idiot? I don't and I was hoping things would have turned out better too. But I still go to Bayview and support East Fife. I see signs of better things to come and I don't see what there is to gain by all these criticisms. What will be, will be and having a go at Lee won't change anything. I would have thought that a man of advanced years like yourself, would have more sense than to think you were sold a dream. What did it cost you, out of interest?
