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All good things come to an end. Or so they say. AFTN has been around since 1989, first as a fanzine and then making the jump to a website and forum in 2003. We've been through the many ups and down at East Fife in those 12 years but policing the forum has become a giant pain in the ass in recent years. As such, we made the decision not to renew it when it expired.

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"Nigger in a bolthole"

How come rap artist Dr. Dre can use the 'N' word on his multi-million selling albums and win a MOBO award, yet when Derrick Brown used it at a supporters club meeting he was chastised? Once again, it's one law for the rich and another for the poor.

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

Because the blacks bought an abusive term back, to throw it in the face of the abusers.
Bit like us calling ourselves "little supporters"...

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

Nobody read " Seize the time " by Bobby Seale, one of the Chicago Seven. Black Panther members referred to each other by the name "Nigger" as a form of greeting.

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

O K So nobody's read it. The gist is if you refer to a friend as NIGGER he relates to someone who was workin' in the cotton fields and not an uncle tom who worked in the house of the masters y'all, if you come from Alabama.

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

interesting post guys here is some more stuff i found,

(ethnic slur) extremely offensive name for a Black person; "only a Black can call another Black a nigga"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

The word "nigger" is a highly controversial term used in many English-speaking countries, including the United States, Canada, Britain, and Australia to refer to individuals with dark skin, especially those of African descent who previously were racially classified by the now outdated term Negro. It was once the standard, casual English term for black people. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger

Nigger (ISBN 0671735608) is the autobiography of comedian Dick Gregory.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_(1964_book)

Nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word is a book by Randall Kennedy about the history and sociology of the word nigger. It was published in 2002 to a firestorm of controversy. Kennedy was accused of "whitewashing" the quintessential black word.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger_(2002_book)

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

and,

some more,,,,

8 ball
(U.S.) A negro. From the black 8 ball used in the game of pool. Coined in the 1930s.

8 rock
(U.S.) A very black person. Used from the 1930s to the 1950s.

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

Both as bad as each other.

However on an educational? note. Nigger comes from some foreign maybe dead language from a word meaning black. As such it was a descriptive term not necessarily derogatory. Now like many terms (gay for instance if you're not) it has progressed to the politically incorrect by misuse of the English (Bah) language.

Basically I blame the Yanks for their constant abuse of correct spelling. Then maybe it is the fault of Berwick Rangers for not rebelling against English invasion. Or is it Brown to deflect from his fear that he will become the next derogatory remark. It has already begun as is seen from the terms "brown nose, brownshirt". To what depths will our language slip.

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

aye,

lets not get carried away with broons improper use of the way our black brothers across the pond relate to each other, and lets not compare Dr Dre in the same sentence as broon, i have to say i like the Dre's rap.

instead lets stick wi conventional scottish terms like.....

oy ya gomeral !

or

yer a gowk !

or maybe

hey ya glaikit cunt !

even perhaps

gang awa ye gret scunner !

what aboot makin up a scottish dictionary fur broon so he disnae mak an erse o hesel again ?

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

Talking of the 8 ball in pool. Anyone remember Joe McDoakes from the shorts that used to be on between the wee film and the main film. These shorts were either him, The Bowery Boys or The Three Stooges. Now there's a thing BROON must be Mo, I wonder who would fit the bill for Shemp and Larry. Answers please!!

Re: "Nigger in a bolthole"

Is Brown now the the "nigger in the woodpile". What should we do about it. Throw up our hands in dismay of such a use of reputedly derogatory language. Or will we extricate him from his warm and cosy situation?