I think we have only scratched the surface of this scandal. A spokesman from Stagecoach said last night the driver of the Rangers bus once attended an East Fife match and did not declare this when he was allocated the Ibrox run.
After discussions with the EFFC board Stagecoach have sentenced him to 10 years the Kennoway circular.
There needs to be much tougher screening of bus passengers in Scotland.

Got to hand it to Craig Johnstone,great captain,taking pelters over this and taking the heat off the rest of the team for a hammering.Seriously,I don't know Craig but I hope he has the sense to ignore this trivial rubbish.

My only concern here is why was Stonie on the bus?

I hope it was just a case of him needing home early and making a poor choice.
Whoever at the club gave the ok is also needing a wee word in their ear

What I'm concerned about is that there's been a bust up and he's chosen not to travel with the team.


If it is the first instance, let him make a short apology in the Forfar match program. I'm sure he wont make the same misjudgment again

It was so he could get a bevvy wi his pals and family before going home... no big deal is it ?

He has to have a life outside of east fife, but just thought he would have choosen a better path than the one he is on.

Typical attitude from rangers fans on here though ..."look what we do for you smaller teams" .."Scottish football be fucked without us" away and beat it to your Scandinavian league cause you lot are the main reason the game in this country suffers.

Rangers have wasted more Scottish players than they develop

If u wanna bitch and moan cause stoney was going out for a night out with pals and family from the bus actually find out how many players were on the bus leaving ibrox

A think this whole topic is going a bit over the top. Is it gonna get brought back up again if in October if he goes to McPhails for a pint wi his mates after the game? He gives his all for the club on the park n does alot of stuff of the park for them which is what fans want! If people don't like his performance tht is fair enough, everybodys views are different but a think at this moment in time the teams performance on the park n lack of results is more worrying then a bus trip wi few friends and family!

Well said Lee,I would not even mention it to stoney,this whole thread is a joke it is always the same,someone goes in a huff over nothing.

Ah! NTOC I am afraid both your posts have fallen on stoney ground. Your ironic, deadpan and somewhat amusing posts need a wider audience I feel.

Had a couple of bites with the first one. Second one was just to pass time.

Same old same old from NTOC,trivialise what is a serious subject.This is our club captain we are talking about,a captain that has travelled home on the oppositions supporters bus wearing our official gear and still representing East Fife no matter what his pals on that bus says.In my opinion Stonie should come out with an apology stating it was an error of judgement then we should all move on.

I can't believe that the usual crap about freedom of speech is churned out on this site. Ironic that this freedom is promoted and hidden in anonymity. Yet these gutless wonders can criticise a persons freedom to do what they want. I am more concerned with what a person does on a football field for east fife rather than their travel arrangements. I am also convinced that the majority of fans with real names would share that view. Perhaps a poll using real names would suffice oops forgot that freedom of speech on here doesn't promote that.

Going over old ground here but I notice that despite the scandals and mismanagement which have plagued EF for years this is the first time you have been angry enough to protest. Presumably you were happy with Derrick Brown,Samantha Twigg,Sid Collumbine,Billy Brown? If Craig's minor error in judgement is the worst scandal to hit EF in the next couple of seasons I will be delighted.
I trivialised what to me was a relatively trivial event.

NTOC I was on the mound protesting ,was very vocal about the BB situation (under a different name but I am now sticking with this one) .What Stonie did is not trivial at least not in my eyes,he is our club captain for christ sake.For all his faults I bet Steve Hislop would never have done anything like this but if he had I bet he would have been hung ,drawn and quartered for it.I am a big supporter of Stonie but this is so wrong and he needs to realise it but what chance is there of that when the Chairman of our trust comes on a Social Network site and spouts crap and unfunny jokes about it.

What I find funny, is how it is possible to support a football club on the other side of the country, when you are born and bred a couple of miles from another senior football club. I just cannot fathom that out one bit! It doesn't happen in England anywhere near the scale of it in Scotland. Down there, they support their local clubs far more than we do in Scotland and we wonder why our game is going downhill so fast.

There are around ten outraged posters on this thread and the majority of these have never had much of an opinion previously about EFFC so while a few have an opinion to be considered there is hardly wave of protest.
I RONNIE (assume you are the same person as II RONNIE)and NTOC will have to agree to disagree and I hope there is not another crisis which causes you change your name yet again.

NTOC needs to put his fishing rod down - it really is too easy for him to wind up some of the hard of thinking on here.

Trivial issue as he states, apparently there was only 3 players who actually travelled back on the bus, maybe Stoney just fancied some company on the trip back to Fife.

This is now officially 'BUSGATE' - and we are being investigated by The Two Ronnies!

There is, of course, the old humanist angle here - it's only a game and mixing with other fans is a way of promoting friendship.

I just found out that the said NTOC also tried to get on that bus, but was knocked back because they wouldn't accept his bus pass as payment!

All together now:

Oh yeh cannie shove Stonny af a bus (af a bus)
Oh yeh cannie shove Stonny af a bus (af a bus)

IN MY OPINION HE SHOULD BE SHOWN THE DOOR,AND ALSO BAD MANAGEMENT FROM THE BOARD A TOTAL DISGRACE.

Aw no a fell for it. Clever ntoc. Never even seen the rod.

Honest.

There are around ten outraged posters on this thread and the majority of these have never had much of an opinion previously about EFFC so while a few have an opinion to be considered there is hardly wave of protest.
I RONNIE (assume you are the same person as II RONNIE)and NTOC will have to agree to disagree and I hope there is not another crisis which causes you change your name yet again.

Aw no a realy thinked a would get yoo.

Reality, that is an outrageous example of ageism which should have been deleted by one of the totally incompetent moderators who are probably too busy wetting their pants as to whether "Ranger's bus" is libelous or not.
I have written to their boss - The Moderator of the Church of Scotland - using one of my many different and clever nommes de plume (TONC) and demanding to know why you have not been banned.

Yool nivir git Mrs tnoc. Yir miles away.

"Reality
Sep 4, 2013 - 10:46AMQuoteReply Re: stonny, rangers game
What I find funny, is how it is possible to support a football club on the other side of the country, when you are born and bred a couple of miles from another senior football club. I just cannot fathom that out one bit! It doesn't happen in England anywhere near the scale of it in Scotland. Down there, they support their local clubs far more than we do in Scotland and we wonder why our game is going downhill so fast."



it doesn't happen in England, lol
who is the largest supported team in the world?
and they all stay in Manchester !!!!!!!!!!

as a youngster you tend to support the bigger teams, teams who are winning
hence most Scottish kids support rangers or celtic although nowadays
even they aren't big enough most kids support man united,city, chelsea or arsenal, barcelona or real madrid, just check out the strips kids wear these days and this team tends to stick with you all your days.

Also back in the 60's and 70's fife had an influx of west coasters so
they brought their kids up supporting the teams their dads supported.

You find it funny to support a team from another area, weird
So in your thinking you should only play for the team from the town you were
born in, how do we do that.

the game in scotland is going down fast because of small-mindedness,
i.e. how dare one of our better players enjoy himself with friends & family
and celebrate probably one of the best days in his life, get a grip.

Can we please stop calling Stonie one of our better players please!!

I think we should draw a line under this. I think he's made a mistake and it's being dealt with by the club. End of. One thing about our captain is that he definitely gives every ounce of ability and effort into his game and is at least vocal on the pitch. He's obviously a big Rangers fan and that's fine by me, most of our team will probably support the big 2 (PSG and Monaco) but as long as they give their all for us then that's fine.
Big game against Forfar next week so let's focus on that!

What influx are you talking about mate, because I don't remember any big influx to Methil or Leven? I don't blame Stoney for being a supporter of Rangers, that was probably his Dad's fault. If his old man came from the West, then fair enough, I'd do the same and guide my son to support East Fife, if I had moved to the West.

I agree that a line should be drawn under the bus affair, it was a mistake, but Stoney's commitment is definitely not in question. His effort & tackles last Saturday proved that beyond doubt. He may support Rangers, but he supports himself and the team he plays for first! It's all about personal pride when playing football and all players want to play better than anybody else on the park.

The fact is, there is a senior club in our area that maybe some will moan about not being involved enough in the community, but one thing is for certain - they are far more involved than any other senior football team. Where do Rangers or Celtic provide facilities for kids around here? So, sorry mate, it is still a mystery why kids are not encouraged by their local, born & bred parents, to support their local team if they are into football.

I am not saying that you should only play for the team where you come from, don't be daft. Any player wants to play at the highest level they can and supporting a team doesn't come into it one bit.

Just look at the crowds throughout English football and try to argue after doing that. By the way, how many of the so-called supporters of the most 'supported' team in the world actually 'support' that team in person, at games? The vast majority of them are wee girls in the far east who wouldn't know the difference between a football and a rugby ball. That says it all about 'supporting' a team from elsewhere!

Let's be honest. how vulgar is it to see kids and adults going about here in Rangers or Celtic tops eh, they don't even look good? I would put money on, that those putting a case on here for 'supporting' the old firm, are supporters of them themselves.

TONC, I don't believe that inanimate objects fall within the tort of defamation of the person.